# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/621 "2025-09-03T19:47:15Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > 🙄 Back atcha’ toots. Sorry, there are no real toots in the United States. A toot in the US would be considered an ass-ripping maelstrom in Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/622 "2025-09-03T19:49:17Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > This is sarcasm I guess? I _wish_ Hasan was being sarcastic when he said such idiotic stuff to his millions of fans. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/623 "2025-09-03T19:49:21Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Sorry, there are no real toots in the United States. I know a seven year old who says otherwise. She’s always talking about her toots. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/624 "2025-09-03T19:53:43Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I agree. It pains me to see people dragged off the street and disappeared with no recourse, abuse, neglect, and dog knows what else. If it isn’t genocide it’s close enough to scare and disgust me. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If you’re saying you won’t vote for Biden or Trump, then yes, you’re saying they’re the same as far as you’re concerned. I will agree with you here @Little_Nemo Some people go through life with one eye closed. I guess it’s a bit easier for them not to think. I hesitate to say this, But I have a friend from Central America. Now this guy is completely ‘Americanized’ did service in the Army and the Navy. Served in Vietnam. Dude is tough as nails. Married to a very ‘white bread’ woman from Illinois. But it’s very, very clear that he is not from European descent. I worry for him. Not too concerned about the number of ICE guys he would take down with him. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/625 "2025-09-03T20:00:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I suggest you look up what a moral victory is. It’s not what you apparently think it is. Oh, I suppose you are right. Wasn’t looking at it that way. I was looking at it as ‘Defending morality, and winning’ ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/626 "2025-09-03T20:02:53Z")
> Toots" can refer to **an affectionate slang term of address, most often for a woman or girl, but can also be used condescendingly or offensively**. > **toots** ## **[noun](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noun)** [ˈtu̇ts](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toots?pronunciation&lang=en_us&dir=t&file=toots01ld "How to pronounce toots (audio)") > **informal** > —used as a term of address especially for a woman or girl > How ya doin’, _toots_?—Arthur Miller I assume you knew what I meant, but in case you didn’t, I’ve supplied a definition from Miriam Webster ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/627 "2025-09-03T20:12:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If you’re saying you won’t vote for Biden or Trump, then yes, you’re saying they’re the same as far as you’re concerned. Even if you then add subtle nuances that explain the differing reasons why you’re treating them the same way. It is not a binary choice, the fact that you talk of the “lesser evil” shows that you understand that two candidates can be considered bad while having a clear seperation between them. Its perfectly rational to say that Trump is much much worse than Biden, while still finding Bidens “lesser evil” to be unsuitable for office. You (and many others) seem to think the only moral choice is to vote for the lesser evil, but that is just an opinion, not some universal truth. There is nothing wrong with having _some_ minimum standards that you hold candidates to. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/628 "2025-09-03T20:18:07Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > Yes it is as are all genocides. I don’t know, so I’m asking are we funding the genocide in Darfur? FTR, no. The UAE supports one side of the conflict (the RSF); Egypt supports the opposing army, along with weapons from Turkey, Qatar and Iran. Russia’s Wagner group supplied the RSF with weapons in 2023. USAID provided 44% of the world’s humanitarian funding in 2024 for Sudan. I would expect a death toll from that, but not genocide, nuclear war, or other separate categories of atrocity. ETA below: Fascists suck. Politics is the slow boring of hard boards. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/629 "2025-09-03T20:19:56Z")
People suck. ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/630 "2025-09-03T20:21:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And there’s another uncomfortable truth. You don’t get anything in a democracy by not voting. Politicians, who need to get elected, only pay attention to the people who vote. > > When you say “I don’t vote and here’s the reasons why…” the politicians stopped listening when you got to the “and”. When you said you don’t vote, you told them they can ignore everything else you say. Why would they pay any attention to you if you’re going to vote for them regardless? Many of these leftists did vote democrat last election, but Biden/Harris then refused to do anything for them, relying on the fact that Trump was worse and therefore they’d _have_ to vote Democrat. People like you are then surprised when they stop voting. It seems they get the same response from the Democrats whether they vote or not, so why should they support them. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/631 "2025-09-03T21:53:38Z")
> [@DCTrekkie](#): > > It seems they get the same response from the Democrats whether they vote or not, so why should they support them. Well things where a lot better under Biden. At least we weren’t the laughingstock of the world. That counts for something. Oh, and the economy wasn’t heading strait to the toilet. My father was a stanch Republican, but did not vote because “it won’t matter”. I don’t think my brother follows politics whatsoever. Both of them idiots at least in that regard. I’m not talking to anyone in particular here, but saying you could not chose a candidate is nothing more than a sad attempt at excusing being lazy and uninformed. FULL STOP. Especially in states with vote by mail. Shit, in Summit County CO they kept heated transit buses parked outside so no one would have to wait in the cold. A blue county, but we wanted anyone that could vote, vote. Also, if you do not vote, you have given up your right to complain about whatever the administration is doing. Again, FULL STOP. ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/632 "2025-09-03T22:41:47Z")
We’re not talking about people who couldn’t be bothered to vote, or who were too uninformed to make a choice. These are people that have looked at both candidates and decided that neither are acceptable. Why are they not allowed to hold this opinion? How would voting for one of the unacceptable options express their view that both are unacceptable? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/633 "2025-09-03T22:55:46Z")
> [@DCTrekkie](#): > > These are people that have looked at both candidates and decided that neither are acceptable. Why are they not allowed to hold this opinion? They _are_ allowed to, just like the people who look at Trump and decide that he’s exactly what they want. It just betrays an _incredible_ lack of judgement. But they’re certainly _allowed_ to hold an incredibly stupid opinion. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/634 "2025-09-03T22:59:50Z")
> [@DCTrekkie](#): > > Why are they not allowed to hold this opinion? This is a question better addressed to the folks in Alligator Alcatraz and the folks that will die this year because Trump gutted USAID and all the folks that are going to suffer because Trump won. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/635 "2025-09-03T23:08:18Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > It just betrays an _incredible_ lack of judgement. > > But they’re certainly _allowed_ to hold an incredibly stupid opinion. This. How can you look at a pill of shit, and an apple and not be able to chose what to eat? They are just fucking lazy, that’s all it is. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/636 "2025-09-03T23:45:53Z")
> [@DCTrekkie](#): > > Is there an “extreme left wing” who think Biden and Trump are the same? Yes; I’ve often argued with them elsewhere. They _equate_ liberalism and fascism. The sort of leftists who argue that Ukraine deserves genocide because they are “Nazis” due to being aligned with the West. Much like the far right who thinks everyone left of them is a communist, the far left thinks everyone right of them is a Nazi. Both of them would cheerfully fill mass graves with everyone who disagrees with them in any way. The most important difference being that the far left is a tiny population of people who post on obscure social media and blogs, while the far right is large in population and runs the country. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/637 "2025-09-03T23:51:26Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > This. How can you look at a pill of shit, and an apple and not be able to chose what to eat? But the apple is bruised, how can you expect me to decide? ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/638 "2025-09-04T00:11:29Z")
I agree it’s very lazy. But it’s also lazy to stay steadfast in the middle and decide you need to take a bite of both to be fair. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/639 "2025-09-04T00:15:18Z")
I’m not saying that’s you, just saying it in general ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/640 "2025-09-04T00:39:33Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > I agree it’s very lazy. But it’s also lazy to stay steadfast in the middle and decide you need to take a bite of both to be fair. I don’t see them as taking a bite, but more as guys who fail to do much while falling into a pit. [![](https://i2.wp.com/redgreenandblue.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tom-toles-climate-change-debate-compromise.jpg?ssl=1) ](https://i2.wp.com/redgreenandblue.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tom-toles-climate-change-debate-compromise.jpg?ssl=1) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=33)