# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/862 "2026-01-29T02:27:03Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Maybe something other than you complaining about what one poster is saying? Who do you feel is the one poster who is saying this? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/863 "2026-01-29T02:29:53Z")
I’ll quote myself, more than 600 posts ago, > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Has it really been that long that folks have forgotten how to Pit Der Trihs? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/864 "2026-01-29T02:58:31Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Has it really been that long that folks have forgotten how to Pit Der Trihs? Okay, so according to you Der Trihs is the only poster that has said Trump is planning on committing genocide, restoring slavery, and/or starting a nuclear war. According to you nobody else has said this. > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Arguably, mass incarcerating and deporting Latinos is genocide. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > No, Trump himself may not be interested in reinstituting slavery, or committing genocide, or starting an apocalyptic global war. But he sure has people who work for him or support him setting policies that look an awful lot like the staging for these things. > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Of those three scenarios you described, though, I think genocide is already happening, restoration of slavery is unlikely and the chances of a nuclear incident relatively low - but not nonzero > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Auschwitz didn’t start as a death camp, but it sure ended up one. > > trump reportedly asked about nuking N Korea, and seriously asked about using nuclear weapons on hurricanes. I guess you go to nuclear war with the enemy you have, not the enemy you want. > [@Miller](#): > > I think the restoration of _Black_ slavery is unlikely, but I think there’s a really, really good chance that the government is going to start leasing a lot of those farm workers they’ve rounded up back to the farms they used to work at, as “convict” labor that’s even cheaper than paying migrant workers. > [@Atamasama](#): > > I feel like disgraced former sherif Joe Arpaio (who Trump pardoned in 2017) serves as a blueprint. He discriminated heavily against Latinos for traffic stops, put them in a “tent city” (that he bragged was a concentration camp) to serve inadequate water and expired food, then had them do forced labor in a chain gang. > > You know damn well there are some Project 2025 types planning to do something very similar with the immigrants they’ve rounded up, to put them to work for profit. They’ve openly advocated for taking away DOJ oversight of the prison system, which would make such abuses much easier to carry out. > > Whether or not that is ever implemented by Trump, I don’t know. But these are the kinds of things the people pulling Trump’s strings are wanting to do. > [@deltogre](#): > > And yes, for the record, I do believe that genocide and slavery and totalitarianism are COMPLETELY on the table. > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The thing is, we don’t know how many people are dying in Alligator Auschwitz, or if deportees are actually being offloaded in South Sudan, or over the ocean from 35000 feet. No one knows. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …it’s telling that this is your very first bullet point, when Trump (and Biden before him) have funded and give approval to the extermination of the Palestinians, a genocide that is being live-streamed on TikTok for all the world to see. > [@Gyrate](#): > > The point on slavery has also been addressed - literal slavery isn’t coming back but as any historian of Reconstruction and Jim Crow America can point out, _de facto_ slavery is already effectively a thing and the current administration has made it clear they’d like a lot more of this, if only for personal profit. > > But genocide? Even setting aside Gaza, in the past seven months the “stop worrying” crowd have gone from “It’s not like there are camps” to “Okay, there are camps but they’re not technically _death_ camps.” SEVEN MONTHS. > > As actual Holocaust scholars have been noting since the first Trump administration, both the rhetoric against certain minority groups and the ongoing restrictions on their rights have closely mirrored the progression of the Nazi regime in the 1930s. And now we do have armed thugs grabbing legal residents (and even citizens) off the streets and imprisoning them in inhumane conditions with no recourse to due process. We have a steady increase in dehumanizing language and literal blood libels to justify this. And we have their expressed intent to continue to make things worse and worse and worse for their chosen targets. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > there is the reality that what Trump and henchmen are doing their most damnable efforts to make things become deadly to hundreds of thousands -or even millions- of people in the near future, in the US and all over the world. I got all of these within the first tenth of this thread. Do I need to go through the other ninety percent? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/865 "2026-01-29T03:09:33Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Okay, so according to you Der Trihs is the only poster that has said Trump is planning on committing genocide, restoring slavery, and/or starting a nuclear war. Aww, look at you moving your goal posts! > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So are you saying Trump did start a nuclear war? Because you have your own definition of what a nuclear war is? And, AIUI, Trump did ask about nuking N Korea (at some point every President will) and using nuclear weapons on hurricanes (at no point will any President) so . . . about those goal posts. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/866 "2026-01-29T03:13:15Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Aww, look at you moving your goal posts! Nope, Gyrate moved the goalposts. I just used them to run in the game winning touchdown. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/867 "2026-01-29T03:20:44Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Okay, so according to you Der Trihs is the only poster that has said Trump is planning on committing genocide, restoring slavery, and/or starting a nuclear war. According to you nobody else has said this. …I was just reading my emails when I got a notification that for some reason you had tagged me back into this thread. And you’ve quoted me as saying: > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …it’s telling that this is your very first bullet point, when Trump (and Biden before him) have funded and give approval to the extermination of the Palestinians, a genocide that is being live-streamed on TikTok for all the world to see. So if you are going to drag me back to these boards in order to make some sort of rhetorical point, I hope you do me the courtesy of engaging in good faith. But I’m not seeing where I’m wrong here. Are you disagreeing with this? Why did you quote me? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/868 "2026-01-29T03:25:07Z")
Wow, that is quite the indiscriminate hodgepodge of quotes mostly saying things very different from the sort of extreme hyperbole you claim to be complaining about. And no, it’s not hyperbole to observe that white nationalist anti-immigrant propaganda—-encouraged and amplified by people actually running the country, no less—-is genocidal in its intent and implications. Nobody’s claiming that the Trump Administration is literally sending millions of Latino citizens and undocumented immigrants to gas chambers. But DHS agents have killed literally dozens of detainees in the past several months, and wrongfully detained thousands, including hundreds of US citizens, in a draconic system with inadequate accountability. It is not in the least too soon to start worrying about the possibility of such abuses leading to overtly genocidal acts. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/869 "2026-01-29T03:39:01Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > But DHS agents have killed literally dozens of detainees in the past several months, and wrongfully detained thousands, including hundreds of US citizens, in a draconic system with inadequate accountability. In a system where reported conditions are intentionally and willfully malicious (to the point that if it were a prison the warders would be looking at prison time themselves) in an attempt to goad people, some of whom are LEGALLY in the country, into self deportation. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/870 "2026-01-29T03:54:54Z")
Yeah. None of the remarks that @Little_Nemo quoted in that smorgasbord of alleged “hysteria” were actually hysterical or ludicrously exaggerated. I can see how somebody not reading very carefully **might** get that impression from one or two of those remarks, such as @Spice_Weasel’s “genocide already happening” or @GIGObuster’s “making things deadly for millions”. But that’s much more about minor variations in interpretation and context than about “hysteria” or absurd overstatement. “Making things deadly for millions worldwide” is a completely accurate way to describe Trump’s torching of USAID and US WHO involvement, for example. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/871 "2026-01-29T06:41:45Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Nobody’s claiming that the Trump Administration is literally sending millions of Latino citizens and undocumented immigrants to gas chambers. But DHS agents have killed literally dozens of detainees in the past several months, and wrongfully detained thousands, including hundreds of US citizens, in a draconic system with inadequate accountability. You left out the murder of two American citizens. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/872 "2026-01-29T08:13:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump is not planning on committing genocide. You’d have to be white to say that. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump is not planning on restoring slavery. You’d have to be a man to say that. He absolutely supports an economy based upon the unpaid labor of women. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump is not planning on starting a nuclear war. In his first administration, he openly and publicly complained many times that the generals wouldn’t let him use his nukes. He very much wanted to have the option of dropping one. Now he has generals (admirals) who are willing to invade a foreign country and kidnap their leader for him. Or bomb people clinging to the remains of their vessel in the middle of the Gulf. Do you really believe he is not in the process of starting WWIII? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/873 "2026-01-29T09:48:02Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Do you really believe he is not in the process of starting WWIII? He keeps saying that he wants to commit an act of war against a fucking NATO country . . . but lets not get hysterical about that. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/874 "2026-01-29T09:52:25Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Do you really believe he is not in the process of starting WWIII? You mean Global Peace & Prosperity Action. Crime fighting not war, will bleat our unflappable Little\_Nemo. You’ll getting all het up over nothing, will whine our intrepid Little\_Nemo. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/875 "2026-01-29T10:23:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Nope, Gyrate moved the goalposts. I just used them to run in the game winning touchdown. Look again. You’re spiking the ball in your own endzone. You’ve been using “nuclear war” as a strawman since the beginning of this thread even though multiple people - myself included - have stated that we don’t think Trump wants an actual nuclear war (although he could bumble into one, something that sadly remains a possibility albeit fortunately still a remote one). But if you were honest, you wouldn’t be able to crow about how smart you are, right? And no, you haven’t missed a nuclear war. But you do seem to have missed that we’re only one year into this administration and already saber-rattling about going to war with the rest of NATO and Iran (plus that whole Venezuela thing). Do you genuinely think things will get _better_ in the next three years? Or is your plan that as long as the wars we keep getting into aren’t _nuclear_, to reach up and pat yourself on the back about your brilliance? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I feel confident I’m not the one looking dumb in that situation. I certainly believe that you feel confident about this. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/876 "2026-01-29T12:22:16Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > He keeps saying that he wants to commit an act of war against a fucking NATO country . . . but lets not get hysterical about that. Actually two NATO countries. In for a penny, in for a pound. But I digress. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/877 "2026-01-29T17:41:51Z")
More than two. But two white ones. And, of course, they have maimed lots of people too: > **['5 shots, 7 holes': Border patrol supervisor appeared to brag about shooting...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/5-shots-7-holes-border-patrol-supervisor-appeared/story?id=127249645)** > > The agent said his texts after the shooting were a way of "relieving stress." ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/878 "2026-01-29T22:29:20Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Why did you quote me? Crowmanyclouds said that nobody other than Der Trihs had said that Trump is planning on committing genocide. So I was quoting a number of other posters who had said that Trump was planning on committing genocide or had already committed genocide. Your post was one of the ones I quoted. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/879 "2026-01-29T22:37:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Or is your plan that as long as the wars we keep getting into aren’t _nuclear_, to reach up and pat yourself on the back about your brilliance? No, you guys seem to have patting yourself on the back covered. My plan is to do whatever I can to see Trump impeached, removed from office, arrested, tried, and imprisoned. To do this, we need to focus on voting Democrats into office in the 2026 election. And focus on the real crimes that Trump has actually committed. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/880 "2026-01-29T22:38:37Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So I was quoting a number of other posters who had said that Trump was planning on committing genocide or had already committed genocide. Your post was one of the ones I quoted. …what I actually said. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …it’s telling that this is your very first bullet point, when Trump (and Biden before him) have **funded** and **give approval** to the extermination of the Palestinians, a genocide that is being live-streamed on TikTok for all the world to see. Bolding mine. I didn’t claim Trump was planning on committing genocide or had otherwise committed genocide. The nuance here is important. If I had intended to say either of these things, I would have just said it. But for the sake of clarity: Trump _isn’t_ committing genocide. He (and his party) is just funding one and materially supporting it. I look forward to your apology and withdrawal. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/881 "2026-01-29T22:46:06Z")
I want to be clear. These are things you think Trump has done: Funded a genocide. Given approval to a genocide. Materially supported a genocide. These are things you think Trump has not done: Planned a genocide. Committed a genocide. Is this correct? I’ll admit I don’t see where you’re drawing the line. How, for example, does somebody fund a genocide without planning a genocide? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=45)