# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/882 "2026-01-29T22:50:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > How, for example, does somebody fund a genocide without planning a genocide? …you are being disingenuous. I previously asked that I hoped you would do me the courtesy of engaging in good faith. Looks like you aren’t capable of doing something as simple as that. You can give money to someone else without taking an active part in the planning of whatever that person is doing. Millions of Americans who contribute money to political parties do that every year. This isn’t a difficult concept. Stop pretending to be stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/883 "2026-01-29T22:50:56Z")
Can we talk about Trump possibly cancelling the midterm elections? Or is that hysteria? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/884 "2026-01-29T23:22:08Z")
The states run the elections. He doesn’t have to pay any attention to it I suppose. The States certainly will. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/885 "2026-01-29T23:37:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ll admit I don’t see where you’re drawing the line. I don’t think anyone is surprised by your inability to parse this very simple distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/886 "2026-01-29T23:51:57Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > How, for example, does somebody fund a genocide without planning a genocide? > > …you are being disingenuous. > > I previously asked that I hoped you would do me the courtesy of engaging in good faith. Looks like you aren’t capable of doing something as simple as that. > > You can give money to someone else without taking an active part in the planning of whatever that person is doing. Millions of Americans who contribute money to political parties do that every year. This isn’t a difficult concept. Stop pretending to be stupid. I honestly feel that the distinctions you are drawing are difficult to define. You’ve stated that Trump funded and materially supported a genocide. And you’ve stated that Trump gave approval to genocide. If somebody approached me and described a robbery they planned on carrying out but said they needed me to give approval to the robbery and to financially support setting up the robbery, I would acknowledge that I was involved in the planning of the robbery. If you disagree, can you tell me what step you feel is necessary in order for it to be said that I was planning the robbery? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/887 "2026-01-29T23:56:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ll admit I don’t see where you’re drawing the line. How, for example, does somebody fund a genocide without planning a genocide? This really isn’t difficult. @Banquet_Bear is clearly talking about support for Netanyahu, and is referring to genocide of Palestinians, which isn’t a genocide @Banquet_Bear thinks Trump is either planning or currently committing. Other posters who do think that Trump is committing or planning to commit genocide are not talking about Palestine, but an ethnic cleansing of the US. And frankly, looking in from the outside, claiming that ethnic cleansing isn’t in the works is becoming a less convincing position by the day. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/888 "2026-01-30T00:01:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I honestly feel that the distinctions you are drawing are difficult to define. …that would be because you are stupid. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You’ve stated that Trump funded and materially supported a genocide. And you’ve stated that Trump gave approval to genocide. > > If somebody approached me and described a robbery they planned on carrying out but said they needed me to give approval to the robbery and to financially support setting up the robbery, I would acknowledge that I was involved in the planning of the robbery. > > If you disagree, can you tell me what step you feel is necessary in order for it to be said that I was planning the robbery? You said “I was quoting a number of other posters who had said that Trump was planning on committing genocide or had already committed genocide.” I’m telling you that I don’t think Trump is _planning_ on committing genocide of the Palestinian people, nor is he currently _committing_ a genocide of the Palestinian people. I think that the plans that have been announced for Gaza amount to the _ethnic cleansing_ of Gaza, but that’s an entirely different story. Genocide is something different. It has a legal definition (that I’ve provided), and what Trump & Co are doing _doesn’t fit that definition_. Trump couldn’t be prosecuted for genocide here. That’s the threshold. All states have a legal duty to _prevent and punish genocide_. But a failure to do so doesn’t mean they are committing genocide…instead they are _complicit_. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/889 "2026-01-30T00:22:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Crowmanyclouds said that nobody other than Der Trihs had said that Trump is planning on committing genocide. I didn’t say that. I’ll let your words speak for themselves you fucking liar, > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So are you saying Trump did start a nuclear war? Because you have your own definition of what a nuclear war is? You might note that the words _committing_ and _genocide_ do not appear. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/890 "2026-01-30T00:41:11Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > I think that the plans that have been announced for Gaza amount to the _ethnic cleansing_ of Gaza, but that’s an entirely different story. Ethnic cleansing is a subset of genocidal practices. You appear to hold a different position on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/891 "2026-01-30T00:53:44Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Ethnic cleansing is a subset of genocidal practices. …ethnic cleansing isn’t genocide. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You appear to hold a different position on the matter. I don’t know what you mean here. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/892 "2026-01-30T01:05:49Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#): > > Can we talk about Trump possibly cancelling the midterm elections? It’s not up to the president whether we have elections or not. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/893 "2026-01-30T03:18:09Z")
Nope. You’re right. State reps, govs, etc. will definitely make it more difficult for key state voters to feel safe voting in person, “cancel mail-in voting!!!”, which Trump and many other GOPers use anyway, possibly making VERY close state elections “frauds!”, followed by investigations, delaying the rightful Dem winners from taking their office. Feds can’t cancel state elections, but they can put out the fear. All they need. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/894 "2026-01-30T03:21:04Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > State reps, govs, etc. will definitely make it more difficult for key state voters to feel safe voting in person, “cancel mail-in voting!!!”, which Trump and many other GOPers use anyway, possibly making VERY close state elections “frauds!”, followed by investigations, delaying the rightful Dem winners from taking their office. Just like they did in 2018, and 2020, and 2025! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/895 "2026-01-30T03:23:16Z")
Odd. Hitler didn’t invade Poland in 1933, but if memory serves, he definitely _did_ invade Poland in 1939. Are you trying to say that what hasn’t truly and totally happened _yet cannot ever_ happen? Because it would be an argument totally void of merit, reason, logic, or common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/896 "2026-01-30T03:38:15Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Are you trying to say that what hasn’t truly and totally happened _yet cannot ever_ happen? I’m saying we’ve already seen Trump & co.’s best attempt at undoing the results of an election and it was a spectacular failure. I doubt that the Republican state officials that were completely unwilling to break the law for Trump six years ago are going to be willing to do it now, or that the judges who dismissed every single electoral challenge he put forth are going to change their minds, or that the tricks that didn’t work last time are suddenly going to work now, or that they’ve conceived of some genius new idea that nobody ever thought of before. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/897 "2026-01-30T03:39:45Z")
Which went absolutely nowhere in terms of refuting my argument. Things change. Things take place that we aren’t aware of until the benefit of hindsight kicks in. As I said, on this subject, you utterly fall **the fuck** apart. It’s charming … sort of. Eh. Maybe ‘tedious’ _was_ an infinitely better word. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/898 "2026-01-30T03:43:10Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Things change. Yes. Things have changed. Trump is older, less mentally fit, and less popular, and he’s surrounded himself with a much less competent batch of yes-men and enablers. There’s nothing to suggest he’s gotten _better_ at electoral trickery. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/899 "2026-01-30T03:43:16Z")
Yep. 2025. When, what was it, four out of six states that went Dem? Glad they won the majority. Oh, wait… Right now if your last name is Gomez, or anything similar, I doubt a vote even gets cast from a voter in that realm. Hope I’m wrong, but this may be the least amount of votes cast at any midterm election. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/900 "2026-01-30T03:44:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > There’s nothing to suggest he’s gotten _better_ at electoral trickery. Just like there was “nothing to suggest” the Alternate Slate of Electors scheme. Until there was, at least. Logic has utterly abandoned you at this point. I’d like to suggest a search party. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/901 "2026-01-30T03:44:45Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Just like there was “nothing to suggest” the Alternate Slate of Electors scheme. Which _failed_, because nobody went along with it. What makes you think people are going to be willing to break the law for Trump now when they refused to before? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=46)