# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/902 "2026-01-30T03:46:57Z")
The mere fact that _you_ can’t come up with any other possible schemes doesn’t mean that nobody else can. Or that they aren’t trying. Or that they haven’t marshaled a big posse of people and think tanks, working _behind_ the scenes and who are both competent and well-compensated. Tedious. Achingly tedious. > [@Smapti](#): > > What makes you think people are going to be willing to break the law for Trump now when they refused to before? Personnel changes, accompanied by radically different screening and hiring practices? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/903 "2026-01-30T03:49:24Z")
Yes, your constant insistence that Trump has some Big Secret Genius Plan that none of us can even imagine, let alone comprehend, and that at some point which keeps getting pushed farther and farther into the future, he’s going to unveil it and it will be absolutely unstoppable and expose us all for the fools we are, IS rather tedious. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/904 "2026-01-30T03:51:10Z")
Putting words in the mouths of others is but one _glaring_ example of how desperation [ETA: and projection] has taken the place of logic, for you, on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/905 "2026-01-30T03:54:21Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …he’s going to unveil it and it will be absolutely unstoppable and expose us all for the fools we are… Who you mean “we”, Kemosabe? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/906 "2026-01-30T03:59:48Z")
Marketing suggests getting the message before your potential customers _where you can reasonably expect that they’ll be._ In that spirit … > [@ICE is racist, fascist, lawless, and running concentration camps](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ice-is-racist-fascist-lawless-and-running-concentration-camps/1025019/346): > > And there we have it … again. It’s called projection. To confront your own insecurities about the future, you need to believe that everybody else is terrified, paralyzed, and has resigned themselves to a horrible, protracted, bloody, fiery death, while you are the lone strong one, heroically charging headlong into the mighty conflagration in order to singlehandedly rescue the thousands of screaming orphans stranded at the breach. And the rest of us are just in your way. I spent a lot of y… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/907 "2026-01-30T03:59:56Z")
Accusing me of being illogical is pretty rich coming from someone whose argument is “they’ll just do it somehow”. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/908 "2026-01-30T04:02:04Z")
No. It really isn’t. I’m unaware of plots to rob banks in this country, or terrorist plots that may be executed on our soil. My lack of awareness doesn’t mean they aren’t taking place. _Please_ stop putting words in my mouth. Though you may not be able to differentiate between the truth of my posts and the fiction of your take _on_ my posts, I believe others can. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/909 "2026-01-30T04:03:10Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Personnel changes, accompanied by radically different screening and hiring practices? “Personnel changes” where? The governorship of Georgia? The Colorado secretary of state’s office? Trump doesn’t hire those people. The Supreme Court is the same makeup now as it was in 2020 and all three of his appointees ruled against him then as well. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/910 "2026-01-30T04:05:00Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I’m unaware of plots to rob banks in this country, And yet, if I asked you to articulate _how_ someone might go about robbing a bank, I bet you could do better than “They’ll do something nobody, including myself, has ever thought of before”. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/911 "2026-01-30T04:09:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Accusing me of being illogical is pretty rich coming from someone whose argument is “they’ll just do it somehow”. Claiming to be logical is pretty rich for a guy that just finished a multi month “demon summoning ritual”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/912 "2026-01-30T04:14:47Z")
Which I explicitly stated that I was _not_ doing because I literally expected to summon demons, but go on with your Reddit atheist ad hom totally unrelated to the topic at hand. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/913 "2026-01-30T04:36:09Z")
Trump, himself, doesn’t need to be involved in the planning. In addition to the incompetent yes-folks, there are the Project 2025 folks, whom I dismissed two years ago—foolishly. I don’t see any need to cancel elections when they are getting better and better about sowing doubt about the results. If elections happen and there is genuine disagreement about the results, who wins? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/914 "2026-01-30T14:02:09Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Odd. Hitler didn’t invade Poland in 1933, but if memory serves, he definitely _did_ invade Poland in 1939. > > Are you trying to say that what hasn’t truly and totally happened _yet cannot ever_ happen? > > Because it would be an argument totally void of merit, reason, logic, or common sense. I’m saying we should focus on the things that have already happening in the present rather than focusing on things that might hypothetically happen at some point in the future. To use your analogy, it’s 1941. Some people are saying that Hitler is conquering Europe and we should be sending troops and supplies to Europe to fight Hitler. And other people are saying that Hitler is going to invade South America and that’s closer than Europe, so we should be sending troops and supplies to South America so we’ll be ready when Hitler invades there. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/915 "2026-01-30T14:05:00Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#): > > Can we talk about Trump possibly cancelling the midterm elections? Or is that hysteria? My personal opinion is that Trump won’t cancel the elections. He and the Republicans will allow elections to occur but they will attempt to control the results. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/916 "2026-01-30T14:16:51Z")
This crazy president is posting that they now have proof that Obama is guilty of something and should be arrested. It’s probably just talk. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/917 "2026-01-30T14:40:08Z")
We certainly can’t worry about anything until we are actually in an extermination camp. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/918 "2026-01-30T14:48:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My personal opinion is that Trump won’t cancel the elections. He and the Republicans will allow elections to occur but they will attempt to control the results. May we be hysterical about that, or is it just something else we shouldn’t focus on because it might hypothetically happen at some point in the future? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/919 "2026-01-30T15:25:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which _failed_, because nobody went along with it. > > What makes you think people are going to be willing to break the law for Trump now when they refused to before? This is the key point. What’s the line from Game of Thrones? Power resides where people believe it to reside, or something along those lines. The problem with electoral loopholes and schemes like the alternate slate of electors is that even if they _work_, as in even if you get the Mike Pences of the world to go along with it and rubber stamp your bullshit, this isn’t _base tag_. You don’t get to say “I made it, I’m safe, you can’t tag me!”. What you’ve done at that point is not _secure_ the presidency, you’ve _destroyed_ it. You’ll have made the presidency so obviously illegitimate that you’ll have forfeited all its power. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/920 "2026-01-30T15:31:34Z")
[Minneapolis schools betray kids to feed ICE hysteria](https://nypost.com/2026/01/11/opinion/minneapolis-schools-betray-kids-to-feed-ice-hysteria/) The NY Post editorial board argues that remote schooling is a hysterical overreaction to ICE. In the meantime, [this is happening.](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/they-are-circling-our-schools-superintendent-says-after-5-year-old-detained-by-ice) And so is this. > **[Protest breaks out at Dilley immigration detention facility holding...](https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2026-01-24/protest-breaks-out-at-dilley-immigration-detention-facility-holding-5-year-old-liam-ramos)** > > A protest broke out Saturday at the ICE-run South Texas family detention complex in Dilley, where five-year-old Liam Ramos is being detained. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/921 "2026-01-30T15:33:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m saying we should focus on the things that have already happening in the present rather than focusing on things that might hypothetically happen at some point in the future. And yet it comes up time and time again that because such and such didn’t happen in the past, it couldn’t _possibly_ be happening now. Sound familiar? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=47)