# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/962 "2026-01-31T14:22:59Z")
America is not a country that loves, or even likes, children. It grieves me to say that, but it’s been true for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/963 "2026-01-31T15:19:06Z")
[Karoline Leavitt is on the call-it-all-hysteria team](https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-press-conference-briefing-karoline-leavitt-january-26-2026/): > Amid the hysteria, we must remember how we got here, to this moment today, and what this Democrat opposition is about. > > Former President Joe Biden and the Democrats opened America’s borders for four years, inviting tens of millions of illegal aliens from all over the world to flood into our country … ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/964 "2026-01-31T15:26:13Z")
[The author of “American Psycho” (clearly an authority on well-adjustedness) scolds us for being hysterical about Trump in 2019.](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bret-easton-ellis-targets-politically-correct-culture-hysterical-liberals-hate-trump) ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/965 "2026-01-31T15:50:10Z")
[Noam Chomsky comforts Epstein – the haters are just hysterical, it’ll all blow over](https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/1qs0row/chomsky_defenders_real_quiet_rn/) (from 2019) What august company to be in! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/966 "2026-01-31T15:50:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, you guys seem to have patting yourself on the back covered. I bet that sounded better in your head. And yet we remain at loggerheads with the rest of NATO, with Iran, have already carried out a regime change on Venezuela, and are threatening various other countries on a weekly basis, and your response is “Yeah, but there hasn’t been a nuclear war yet, hyuk hyuk!” > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My plan is to do whatever I can to see Trump impeached, removed from office, arrested, tried, and imprisoned. To do this, we need to focus on voting Democrats into office in the 2026 election. And focus on the real crimes that Trump has actually committed. Based on your posts, your plan remains to say anything that allows you to pretend you’re right, “real crimes that Trump actually committed” be damned. > [@Smapti](#): > > I’m saying we’ve already seen Trump & co.’s best attempt at undoing the results of an election and it was a spectacular failure. I doubt that the Republican state officials that were completely unwilling to break the law for Trump six years ago are going to be willing to do it now, or that the judges who dismissed every single electoral challenge he put forth are going to change their minds, or that the tricks that didn’t work last time are suddenly going to work now, or that they’ve conceived of some genius new idea that nobody ever thought of before. “If we look at the three things they’ve failed at and ignore all the ways they are succeeding in undermining democracy, clearly they’re failing at everything!” What makes you think we’ve seen their “best efforts”? > [@Smapti](#): > > Yes. Things have changed. Trump is older, less mentally fit, and less popular, and he’s surrounded himself with a much less competent batch of yes-men and enablers. > > There’s nothing to suggest he’s gotten _better_ at electoral trickery There’s quite a lot to suggest that the right have learned their lessons from 2020-2021 and have been actively working to remove all the guardrails. I mean, the FBI just raided election offices in Georgia this week. But please keep pretending. > [@Smapti](#): > > What makes you think people are going to be willing to break the law for Trump now when they refused to before? Because they’ve got different people in place now? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m saying we should focus on the things that have already happening in the present rather than focusing on things that might hypothetically happen at some point in the future. “We need to fight the last war rather than learn from it.” Your “might hypothetically happen” deliberately downplays the evidence that there is a significant likelihood of worse things happening. And some of us would like to stop them before they happen. > [@Babale](#): > > Your eyes and ears are manufacturing hallucinations that make you think that people will break the law for Trump? My eyes and ears detect people breaking the law for Trump on a daily basis in ways up to and including murder. Why don’t yours? Is it because of the location of your head? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But you also referred to things happening now. So which of those things do you think is happening now in the United States? Genocide or slavery or nuclear war? Well, there’s are some nice little pogroms currently going on against immigrants and trans people and the active erosion of rights and protections for minorities and women, but on the other hand there’s you saying “Hey, things won’t get that bad” which is probably a great comfort to those populations. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > _”_ What people are telling you is _“There’s a serious problem going on and we’re trying to fix it. If you’re not going to help could you at least go rant somewhere else so you’re don’t get in our way?”_ That funny, because that’s what we’re saying to _you_. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/967 "2026-01-31T15:55:33Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > Noam Chomsky comforts Epstein – the haters are just hysterical, it’ll all blow over You mean Noam “Steven Bannon’s Best Bud” Chomsky? [![](https://e3.365dm.com/25/12/2048x1152/skynews-noam-chomsky-steve-bannon_7108653.jpg?20251212215419) ](https://e3.365dm.com/25/12/2048x1152/skynews-noam-chomsky-steve-bannon_7108653.jpg?20251212215419) ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/968 "2026-01-31T16:19:54Z")
That’s the one! ETA: Fun fact, both of these guys are my neighbors. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/969 "2026-01-31T16:27:26Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > ETA: Fun fact, both of these guys are my neighbors. I’m so sorry ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/970 "2026-01-31T16:30:15Z")
It’s not like they actually hang out with the common folks, so I haven’t had to encounter either. But thank you. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/971 "2026-01-31T16:35:10Z")
I never would have figured Chomsky to be this big of a scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/972 "2026-01-31T16:36:06Z")
Sorry to break it to you. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/973 "2026-01-31T19:37:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > We’re the ones who are saying Trump should be arrested for the real crimes he’s already committed. > > You’re the ones who are saying _“No, wait, let’s talk about the much worse crimes he’s going to commit in the future.”_ Why not both? I don’t understand why you read this as an either or. Let’s prosecute him for the crimes he’s already committed as one attempt to prevent him from committing additional crimes. (I think the supreme Court gave him a “get out of prosecution free” card already, though, so i don’t expect the protections to get a lot of traction.) > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > What people are telling you is _“There’s a serious problem going on and we’re trying to fix it. If you’re not going to help could you at least go rant somewhere else so you’re don’t get in our way?”_ > > Do you know where you can go to “rant somewhere so you aren’t in the way?” > > _Right here._ Yup. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/974 "2026-01-31T20:06:56Z")
Uh-huh. And what do you propose we **do** about any of that, besides surrendering to hopelessness? ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/975 "2026-01-31T20:27:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And what do you propose we **do** about any of that, besides surrendering to hopelessness? That’s your disingenuous spin. Nobody has even remotely suggested surrendering to hopelessness. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/976 "2026-01-31T20:30:42Z")
If your purpose here is to direct people away from caring about the very real danger Trump represents, and towards your constant rewording and outright lying about what others are saying over and over again then, yes, you are succeeding. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/977 "2026-01-31T20:42:38Z")
Uh huh. So what do you propose we **do** about any of that? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/978 "2026-01-31T20:45:04Z")
Why bother telling you stuff you’ve no doubt heard before, when you are just here to lie about it and create straw men to attack? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/979 "2026-01-31T20:47:01Z")
So you got nothing, then. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/980 "2026-01-31T20:49:28Z")
Why bother giving you anything, when you only ignore it or lie about it? It’s _your_ flaming hoop-_You_ jump through it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/981 "2026-01-31T20:51:22Z")
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