# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1262 "2026-02-09T07:51:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s not a convincing argument in a thread where people have been scolding me for my position for the last nine months. What, exactly, about posting in one dedicated thread _you_ started to call out other people, _in the motherfucking Pit_, constitutes “following around”, in you mind? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1263 "2026-02-09T13:18:22Z")
_“Little Nemo? Tragic. I’ve never seen such a stunning example of somebody squandering whatever good will and political capital they once may have had. It’s a Homeric fall from grace that, I hope, we can all learn from.”_ –Rudy Giuliani [Well, not really, but he _could_ credibly have said it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1264 "2026-02-09T14:49:09Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > The list of a “dozen examples” of posters attacking people, other than you, for planning to vote against the Republicans for the wrong reasons. Sorry, thought I was clear on that one. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > > Where are my “dozen examples”??? > > > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > > > Because if you do, I’ll quote a dozen examples of it happening in this thread. > > > > Be my guest . . . two caveats; > > All examples must be attacking someone who is planning on voting against the Republicans. > > No example can be it happening to you. > > You acknowledged that the examples exist. And then you said you want to pretend they don’t exist. Of course this was after you said nobody in this thread had claimed genocide was occurring and I posted a list of quotes of people doing that. And you said those don’t count. But if it’s a list you want, here’s a list of posts I’ve made. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Let me be clear on this point; I am not defending Donald Trump. He is both evil and stupid. He is a terrible human being and he is the worst President this country has ever had. He, along with the Republican party, are trying to destroy democracy. He has committed numerous serious crimes and should be in prison. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump has committed or abetted real crimes like corruption, murder, rape, and treason. And the Republicans have supported him and refused to do their constitutional duty. > > So we need to get Trump and the Republicans out of office. Trump should be impeached, arrested, convicted, and imprisoned. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump is committing real crimes. We should focus on those real crimes. Trump should be removed from office and face criminal charges for the things he has done. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My plan is to do whatever I can to see Trump impeached, removed from office, arrested, tried, and imprisoned. To do this, we need to focus on voting Democrats into office in the 2026 election. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Because getting people to vote against the Republicans is more important than me winning an argument with an asshole. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Here’s how I see it. > > Trump and the Republicans are an ongoing problem. Getting Trump and the Republicans out of political power is a primary goal. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I am obsessed with winning. Trump and the Republicans are doing terrible things. I want to stop them. It’s a really important goal and I want to win it. I want to stop them, not just settle for a “moral victory”. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ll do it because defeating Trump and the Republicans is really important. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s what we need to do here. Trump and the Republicans are doing a lot of terrible things. We need to remove them from power, in this case by voting rather than fighting. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I feel that regardless of what ideal you feel the Democrats fall short of, the Democrats in office cause far less damage than the Republicans do. So I feel that helping to oust Republicans and put in Democrats is worth working for. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So we should focus on the congressional elections and make the central issue of this election removing Donald Trump from power. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m saying we should stop Trump now, in 2026. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Defeating Trump is important. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ve always been opposed to Trump. I voted against him in 2016, 2020, and 2024. I vote in all elections and I always vote for Democrats. Because I can see how bad the Republicans are. > > You don’t need to say anything to convince me to oppose Trump and the Republicans. And what’s more, nothing you can say would convince me not to oppose Trump and the Republicans. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My argument has been very simple because I’ve kept it focused on a single issue; removing Trump and the Republicans from power. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s things like that that are the reason we should focus on getting Trump and the Republicans out of power. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I will be voting for whoever is the Democratic nominee in 2028. I hope they win. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Let me repeat, the goal of defeating Trump and the Republicans is more important than your personal feelings. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I have listened to what people are telling me. The problem, to these people, is I don’t immediately agree with them. And when I disagree with them, they start swearing at me. > > Personally, I don’t give a damn what anyone here says to me. And here’s the conclusion you reached after all of these. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I hope we all get it Little\_Nemo, stop being mean to you or you’ll vote Republican. I’m starting to suspect you may not actually be reading what other people are posting here. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1265 "2026-02-09T14:52:27Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > That’s not a convincing argument in a thread where people have been scolding me for my position for the last nine months. > > What, exactly, about posting in one dedicated thread _you_ started to call out other people, _in the motherfucking Pit_, constitutes “following around”, in you mind? I started a thread by posting an OP. Other people responded. That’s what following means. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1266 "2026-02-09T15:00:41Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > And the thread keeps going because _you just won’t stop_. And thats either because you are trolling or because you are delusional. I still can’t figure out which. The answer is neither. I’m not trolling or delusional. I have a position I believe is really important and I’ll keep defending it. I said before I have no plans on walking away. This is a really important cause. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > And no, people aren’t scolding you for your position on Palestine. The only person likely to do that here _would be me_. But I don’t even know what your position actually is. My position on Palestine is that it’s an issue that mainly involves Palestinians and Israelis and I don’t see it as very central in American politics. And I’d rather keep the focus in this thread on American politics. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1267 "2026-02-09T15:14:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s what following means That’s not what “following _ **around** _” means, you disingenuous prick. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1268 "2026-02-09T17:54:10Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > It’s been said before, possibly in this thread as well, that it’s instructive to look at classic union-organizer tactics. They divide their potential recruits into four categories, from most to least receptive: 1) activist supporters, 2) passive supporters, 3) undecided, and 4) opponents. Ahem: > [@I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/858): > > Annoying. Sneer. Hysteria. Hysterical. Moralizing. Breathless. I call commentators like this, who are not pro-Trump but are very against the Cassandra read of him, [anti-alarmists](https://www.liberalcurrents.com/trump-alarmists-were-right-we-should-say-so/). They are encountering the Cassandra song as female; that annoys them, and they dismiss it on that basis. [The Americans Who Saw All This Coming—but Were Ignored and Maligned | The New Republic](https://newrepublic.com/article/204254/survey-2024-election-cassandras-trump-2025) For those who would like to learn how to build solidarity and voter turnout in ways that might be effective for real, look t… ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1269 "2026-02-09T19:24:41Z")
[The Greatest Hysteria In American History](https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/trump-hysteria-mccarthy-era/) (from 2018) > If you vote Democrat this November, you are voting for hysteria, lies, socialism and even the cheapening of the Holocaust. Just a reminder. Republicans have been sneering at Dems and their purported allies as being hysterical for decades now. They do it because ‘hysterical’ is a dog whistle for both sexism and ableism. People who have been sneered at in this way are not going to react kindly to Democrats who use the dog whistle and then tell them to vote Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1270 "2026-02-09T19:36:19Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Of course this was after you said nobody in this thread had claimed genocide was occurring and I posted a list of quotes of people doing that. Quote the post where I said that you lying mother fucker. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1271 "2026-02-09T21:30:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The answer is neither. …so are you just stupid then? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m not trolling or delusional. I have a position I believe is really important and I’ll keep defending it. > > I said before I have no plans on walking away. This is a really important cause. If the cause is “getting rid of Trump”, then why is your position on Palestine this? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My position on Palestine is that it’s an issue that mainly involves Palestinians and Israelis and I don’t see it as very central in American politics. And I’d rather keep the focus in this thread on American politics. Because you know that’s a lie, right? It isn’t an issue that "mainly involves “Palestinians and Israelis.” You know President Trump is the Chairman for Life of the “Board of Peace” that is overseeing the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, right? That makes it an _American political issue_. The executive board includes Marco Rubio, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, American billionaire Marc Rowan, American political advisor Robert Gabriel Jr. Have you heard of Tawfiq Ajaq? He was an American teen, allegedly killed by Israeli forces (we still don’t know exactly by whom) in 2024. Sayfollah Musallet? Another American, beaten to death by settlers. The ambulance desperately trying to get him to hospital was blocked for 3 hours by Isreali forces. Shireen Abu Akleh? An American citizen shot in the head by the IDF. The IDF said “sorry.” And then did [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11CVGz7toM) at her funeral. Khamis al-Ayyad of Chicago, killed in a settler attack. Amer Rabee, 14 year old American boy, killed in a hail of bullets. Jacob Flickinger, killed when the World Food Kitchen convoy he was part of got targeted by the IDF. Mohammad Khdour: a “mystery killing”. The IDF referred any questions to Shin Bet who declined to comment. Tawfiq Hafez Tawfiq Ajaq, 17, American citizen, shot first by settlers then by an Israeli military vehicle. The deaths of multiple American citizens at the hands of IDF forces and settlers, with no real investigations and nobody held accountable, make it an American political issue. Because America gives Israel billions of dollars every year. Much of that money is used to buy American weapons which are being used in the genocide in Gaza. That makes it an American political issue. 76% of Democrats think that Israel are committing genocide in Gaza and 75% of them want the funding to stop. That makes it an American political issue. And many Americans _won’t vote_ for politicians or political parties that vow to _continue_ funding the genocide in Gaza. Because, to use your WWII analogy, imagine if instead of fighting Germany in WWII, America _funded_ them instead. Could you bring yourself to vote for a political party that was actively funding and supporting the Holocaust? So that brings us back to your “really important cause”, the one that you have “no plans on walking away from”. I’d put it to you that your priorities are all wrong. Instead of shaking hands with the anti-trans-bigots you should be aligning with the people that want the genocide in Gaza to end. Push the Democrats to pledge to stop funding the genocide if they get into power and I think you will get more votes than you will if you spend time with bigots. One group want the killings to stop. The other group: the ones that you want to shake hands with, want trans people gone from society. Why would you waste your efforts courting the latter? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1272 "2026-02-10T01:31:55Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Quote the post where I said that you lying mother fucker. I could just repost the list of quotes. You could then say they don’t count again. And you could swear at me some more. But really I don’t feel I’m needed in this process. Just go back and re-read the list I posted last time and then you can do your thing. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1273 "2026-02-10T01:35:14Z")
Banquet-Bear, it’s possible for people to have opinions that differ from your own without those people being trolls or delusional or stupid or lying. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1274 "2026-02-10T01:48:29Z")
We have _got_ to get you that mirror for Christmas! ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1275 "2026-02-10T01:52:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I could just repost the list of quotes. Yeah. why don’t you do that. Because I just went through almost half of this thread and I think you are full of shit too. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1276 "2026-02-10T02:03:29Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Banquet-Bear, it’s possible for people to have opinions that differ from your own without those people being trolls or delusional or stupid or lying. …not in your particular case, I’m afraid. I’m still personally leaning towards trolling. But if you think stupid fits? Then stupid it is. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1277 "2026-02-10T02:14:31Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > There simply _are no_ ‘non-existent threats.’ Can Donald Trump eat the Moon? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1278 "2026-02-10T02:15:57Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > He’s pivoted to “I’ll work with the Klan to fight the Nazis”. And the Klan wants me dead just as much as the Nazis do. We worked with Stalin to fight the Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1279 "2026-02-10T02:19:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > He’s pivoted to “I’ll work with the Klan to fight the Nazis”. And the Klan wants me dead just as much as the Nazis do. > > We worked with Stalin to fight the Nazis. Yup > [@puzzlegal](#): > > But if you want to eradicate me and my kin and everyone like me, we really can’t work together. We can maybe be cautious allies during a war, but we each know the other will turn on us if they have a good opportunity to do so. And Russia did just that. But there was a real difference between the Russia and the Nazis, they had different motives and goals. I don’t actually think there’s any light between modern Nazis and modern Klan in the US. It’s the same people with the same goals and the same motives. It’s mostly the same people, to even. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1280 "2026-02-10T03:47:34Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > We worked with Stalin to fight the Nazis. Stalin wasn’t in the USA. And that didn’t work out real well for the people in the area that Russia did take. Why do you think that we’d wind up in the position of the unoccupied 1945 USA, instead of the position of occupied Hungary, say, or of the people Stalin murdered in the USSR? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1281 "2026-02-10T03:50:44Z")
So… should we _not_ have worked with Russia, and let the Germans win the war instead? Would that have been better for the people of Hungary? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=65)