# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/121 "2025-08-06T17:07:56Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Thank you for your opinion, Prime Minister Chamberlain, we’ll take it under advisement. As long as we’re clearing up ambiguities, how was this directed? Am I supposed to be Neville Chamberlain in this analogy? Because if so it’s a bad analogy. Chamberlain abandoned the problem that was facing him that day because he was too concerned about dire possibilities that might occur in the future. I wrote the opposite. I said we shouldn’t be so concerned about dire possibilities that might occur in the future that we lose focus on the problem that is facing us today. Which, to use your analogy, was saying if Hitler is threatening Czechoslovakia, we should be fighting him in Czechoslovakia. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/122 "2025-08-06T17:41:42Z")
It’s totally on point. Chamberlain completely trusted Hitler to not bomb Czechoslovakia. So much for that. He thought Hitler would do only this and nothing more, that appeasing his annexation of the Sudetenland would be the end. We know how that worked out. 50M dead, death camps, torture, murder, devastation. If only someone had done something. We can’t wait for trump to invade Poland. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/123 "2025-08-06T17:44:26Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > We can’t wait for trump to invade Poland Do you understand that I’ve been saying the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/124 "2025-08-06T17:45:28Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > We can’t wait for trump to invade Poland. I almost hope he does try to invade Poland. What we can’t wait for him to do is for him to invade Panama / Mexico / Greenland / Canada. Have I missed any? ---
**Author:** ![jjakucyk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3d9bf3/32.png) [@jjakucyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjakucyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/125 "2025-08-06T17:45:50Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > …we shouldn’t be so concerned about dire possibilities that might occur in the future that we lose focus on the problem that is facing us today. If the “might occur in the future” things are 10/10 bad, the things he’s actually doing are still 8/10, which is more than bad enough to get “hysterical” over. The systematic dismantling or corruption of virtually every pillar of governance is already a red-alert all-hands-on-deck situation that warrants basically the same response as genocide, slavery, or nuclear war. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/126 "2025-08-06T17:59:40Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Have I missed any? California. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/127 "2025-08-06T20:57:32Z")
Right, but the point some of us are trying to make is THAT’s what to concentrate on, and saying nonsense like he wants a nuclear war, is going to invade Canada, start concentration camps, or any number of other hyperbolic, absurd, and frankly every bit as conspiracy theoretical as anything QAnon ever came up with doesn’t help, and generally detracts and distracts from the real work at hand. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/128 "2025-08-06T21:02:25Z")
> [@bump](#): > > start concentration camps Um, we literally have those now. [The Grand Opening of an American Concentration Camp | The New Republic](https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-trump-concentration-camp) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/129 "2025-08-06T21:03:08Z")
> [@bump](#): > > start concentration camps, or any number of other hyperbolic, absurd, and frankly every bit as conspiracy theoretical as anything QAnon ever came up with doesn’t help Ya know what really doesn’t help? > The American Heritage Dictionary defines the term concentration camp as: “A camp where persons are confined, usually without hearings and typically under harsh conditions, often as a result of their membership in a group which the government has identified as dangerous or undesirable.” > **[Concentration camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp)** > > A concentration camp is a prison or other facility used for the internment of political prisoners or politically targeted demographics, such as members of national or ethnic minority groups, on the grounds of national security, or for exploitation or punishment. > Prominent examples of historic concentration camps include the British confinement of non-combatants during the Second Boer War, the mass internment of Japanese-Americans by the US during the Second World War, the Nazi concentration ca... Pretending that the concentration camps don’t already exist. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/130 "2025-08-06T21:06:30Z")
People who like to hide themselves from what is currently happening in my country like to equate concentration camps with boxcars and gas chambers. Without those, how dare anyone call these places concentration camps? Give this American caution verging on hyperbole any old day. It’s in the same American tradition that fuels 2nd amendment nuts, and that provides us with enough nuclear weaponry to melt the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/131 "2025-08-06T21:10:35Z")
Also pretending that genocide has to mean mass extermination when it just as often means forcibly removing a people from where they live and destroying their families and culture, which is what Trump is doing to Latinos. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/132 "2025-08-06T21:11:05Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > People who like to hide themselves from what is currently happening in my country like to equate concentration camps with boxcars and gas chambers. > > Without those, how dare anyone call these places concentration camps? The paragraph before the one I quoted addresses that, > The term “concentration camp” and “internment camp” are used to refer to a variety of systems that greatly differ in their severity, mortality rate, and architecture; **their defining characteristic is that inmates are held outside the rule of law**. Extermination camps or death camps, whose primary purpose is killing, are also imprecisely referred to as “concentration camps”. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/133 "2025-08-06T21:16:44Z")
To add on to what @crowmanyclouds is saying, an example of a concentration camp might be, for example, taking all of the people of Gaza and putting them into a prison. E.g. as a way to be able to process them individually, to interview as potential members of Hamas and to prevent them from aiding members of Hamas. You haven’t arrested them because they’ve committed any crime, you’re just locking them up because it suits your military goals. See, for example, the Boer War concentration camps: > **[Second Boer War concentration camps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps)** > > During the Second Anglo-Boer War (1899–1902), the British operated concentration camps in the South African Republic, Orange Free State, the Colony of Natal, and the Cape Colony. In February 1900, Lord Kitchener took command of the British forces and implemented controversial tactics that contributed to a British victory. > Using a guerrilla warfare strategy, the Boers lived off the land and used their farms as a source of food, thus making their farms a key item in their many successes at the be... ---
**Author:** ![jjakucyk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3d9bf3/32.png) [@jjakucyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjakucyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/134 "2025-08-06T21:18:51Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Right, but the point some of us are trying to make is THAT’s what to concentrate on, and saying nonsense like he wants a nuclear war, is going to invade Canada, start concentration camps, or any number of other hyperbolic, absurd, and frankly every bit as conspiracy theoretical as anything QAnon ever came up with doesn’t help, and generally detracts and distracts from the real work at hand. And I’m saying what he is doing is already so close to those things that arguing over it is actually rather pointless, it’s not hyperbolic at all. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/135 "2025-08-06T21:20:43Z")
Oh come on, where’s this imminent nuclear war? Are the troops massing on the Canadian border? Neither is the case. And won’t be the case. Those things in particular are just hot air and bullshit. We shouldn’t take that seriously. Lord knows there’s enough other stuff to take seriously instead of worrying about that sort of Trumpian nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/136 "2025-08-06T21:27:46Z")
OK, so what about the concentration camps you mentioned? No boxcars? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/137 "2025-08-06T21:38:25Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Oh come on, where’s this imminent nuclear war? Tell us, what are the signs that a nuclear war is imminent? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/138 "2025-08-06T21:38:43Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Oh come on, where’s this imminent nuclear war? > **[Trump Moves “Nuclear” Subs: Negotiating Tactic or Escalatory Gamble?](https://www.csis.org/analysis/trump-moves-nuclear-subs-negotiating-tactic-or-escalatory-gamble)** > > Trump sent nuclear submarines closer to Russia following a week of social media clashes with the former Russian president, while his envoy heads to Moscow to broker a ceasefire before the deadline. Amid wild speculation, this commentary assesses the... The threat of a nuclear war breaking out over Ukraine would be high regardless of who was president at the moment, but I don’t think having a demented incompetent calling the shots from the Oval Office is _reducing_ that risk any. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/139 "2025-08-06T22:07:56Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > He only sexually assaulted one woman (that we know about), boasted about his ability to “grab [others] by the pussy,”, took a series of trips to Jeff Epstein’s Fantasy Island of Sex Trafficking, incited an attempted coup, threatened political opponents with persecution and encouraged followers to engage in violence, used campaign money to pay off a porn star he slept with, bragged about wanting to sleep with his daughter, creeped on teenage pageant contestants, and used his position as President to enrich himself, promote scammy cryptocurrency schemes, and install his patron Elon Musk into a role where he could illegally dismantle entire agencies and cut funding critical to the lives and well-being of millions of people. _“Okay, but **aside** from this, what has he done wrong?”_ _“Tore down the Aquaduct?”_ _“Oh, Sod Off!!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/140 "2025-08-06T22:53:14Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Are the troops massing on the Canadian border? Nevertheless, Canada is taking the threat seriously, and is taking serious steps. A lot of that has to do with trade (internal and international), but not all of it. The general thought is that Americans aim to break the country economically and force annexation in the wake of that rather than invade militarily. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=8)