# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1482 "2026-02-20T23:13:55Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Because we see insipid optimism for the dangerous lie that it is. All the people saying “just wait until the midterms,” will very slowly realize that they didn’t fix anything and then they’ll say “just wait until 2028.” Meanwhile, we’ve been waiting years for people to figure it out, but they never fucking do and they never fucking will. I’ve said before that if anybody has a better plan, they should be offering it up. But if you don’t have a better plan, then telling everyone they should give up and do nothing is not a plan. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1483 "2026-02-20T23:30:00Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ve said before that if anybody has a better plan, they should be offering it up. And I’ve said before: anyone who still has a Trumpist in their social circle needs to cut them out and tell them why. Trumpists grandparents need to eat Christmas dinner at Denny’s cutoff from their grandchildren. There should be no place among polite society for fascists. Anyone who had Thanksgiving dinner with a Trumpist is no better than anyone in MAGA. Stop giving any comfort to fascists and it would wither. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1484 "2026-02-20T23:34:01Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > And I’ve said before: anyone who still has a Trumpist in their social circle needs to cut them out and tell them why. Trumpists grandparents need to eat Christmas dinner at Denny’s cutoff from their grandchildren. There should be no place among polite society for fascists. Anyone who had Thanksgiving dinner with a Trumpist is no better than anyone in MAGA. Stop giving any comfort to fascists and it would wither So just to be clear, are you saying this is a plan? Or just something we should be doing as a moral stand? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1485 "2026-02-20T23:37:05Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > There should be no place among polite society for fascists. Anyone who had Thanksgiving dinner with a Trumpist is no better than anyone in MAGA. Stop giving any comfort to fascists and it would wither. Way too late for that. That technique works when there are only a few people to use it on. When there’s a lot of them, they just pull in tighter with each other; more convinced than ever that they’re right. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1486 "2026-02-20T23:42:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > As for any problems people may have with the Democrats, I feel these problems are marginal in comparison to what the Republicans are actively doing. And like it or not, the Democrats are the only political organization that’s now in existence and has any chance of replacing the Republicans. How’s ‘Shut up and vote for the Democrat’ been working for ya? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1487 "2026-02-20T23:44:43Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > And I’ve said before: anyone who still has a Trumpist in their social circle needs to cut them out and tell them why. Trumpists grandparents need to eat Christmas dinner at Denny’s cutoff from their grandchildren. There should be no place among polite society for fascists. Anyone who had Thanksgiving dinner with a Trumpist is no better than anyone in MAGA. I get that you’re not willing to have Thanksgiving dinner with a Trumpist — but if you think anyone who _did_ have Thanksgiving dinner with a Trumpist is no better than anyone in MAGA, then would you have Thanksgiving dinner with one of _them?_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1488 "2026-02-20T23:49:20Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > How’s ‘Shut up and vote for the Democrat’ been working for ya? > I’ve said before that if anybody has a better plan, they should be offering it up. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2026, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1489 "2026-02-20T23:52:19Z")
Let’s try “Shout out and vote for the Democrats. Including shouting at them when necessary. And if you’re up to it run for office while you’re at it.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1490 "2026-02-21T00:01:01Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > How’s ‘Shut up and vote for the Democrat’ been working for ya? Ask us again on November 4th. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1491 "2026-02-21T00:04:17Z")
I’ll ask again a year after November 4th. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1492 "2026-02-21T00:09:29Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Let’s try “Shout out and vote for the Democrats. Including shouting at them when necessary. And if you’re up to it run for office while you’re at it.” I agree with all of this. But I’d add “Encourage other people to vote for the Democrats as well.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1493 "2026-02-21T00:15:56Z")
Yes, with all of those Republicans voting for the Democrats we can have an entire Senate of Fettermans. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1494 "2026-02-21T00:31:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So making the message “We need to get rid of the Republicans in order to get rid of Trump” is effectively targeting both enemies. There is a third enemy that your message doesn’t address at all - all of the outsiders who are pouring money into the Republican party. Go look at who is funding the new ballroom. It’s not Republican politicians and it isn’t MAGA. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1495 "2026-02-21T00:35:44Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > There is a third enemy that your message doesn’t address at all - all of the outsiders who are pouring money into the Republican party. Go look at who is funding the new ballroom. It’s not Republican politicians and it isn’t MAGA. Okay, what’s the plan to bypass Republican politicians and go after the people who are financing them? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1496 "2026-02-21T00:48:10Z")
The enemy has _always_ been capitalism. You don’t need to speak in riddles. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1497 "2026-02-21T00:50:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The enemy has _always_ been capitalism. That’ll sure get those ‘on the fencers’ to vote D! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1498 "2026-02-21T00:52:13Z")
> **[What Americans think about socialism and capitalism, according to a new...](https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/what-americans-think-about-socialism-and-capitalism-according-to-a-new-gallup-poll/)** > > For years, Republicans have disparaged their political rivals by describing them as socialists. But that may not be the insult it once was for > Just over half of U.S. adults, 54%, have a positive view of capitalism, according to the new survey, a slight decline from 61% in 2010. > > According to the survey, only 42% of Democrats view capitalism favorably, while 66% have a positive view of socialism. > > Young adults generally — but particularly younger Democrats — are much less positive about capitalism than they were 15 years ago. Only 31% of Democrats under 50 have a positive view of capitalism, the new poll found, compared to 54% in 2010. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1499 "2026-02-21T01:01:17Z")
Now tell us the numbers for Republicans? Ya know, the folks that _the wooing of_ this thread’s goal posts were never about. > the Gallup poll found that only 14% of Republicans have a positive view of socialism ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1500 "2026-02-21T01:55:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Okay, what’s the plan to bypass Republican politicians and go after the people who are financing them? Why are you asking me? You’ve clearly got this all figured out. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1501 "2026-02-21T02:00:33Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Now tell us the numbers for Republicans? The Republicans love corporate socialism. Does that count? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=76)