# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1682 "2026-04-24T20:22:27Z")
I feel frustrated by those who didn’t vote against trump. However, I do not blame them. The Palestinian genocide is indefensible. I was disgusted by the campaign to refuse to acknowlege the people were passionately against it and wanted some assurence that we wouldn’ tcontinue to fund it. I’m disgusted and disapointed in Biden allowing and encouraging it to continue. I don’t know why tptb keep funding and fawning over israel. The israeli government are murderous, genocidal, corrupt, bastards. Why do we continue to support this atrocity? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1683 "2026-04-24T20:31:40Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > The israeli government are murderous, genocidal, corrupt, bastards. Why do we continue to support this atrocity? Because they are the same sort of people we voted for. And are killing people - Muslims - that America, as a nation has _always_ hated. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1684 "2026-04-24T20:37:39Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > We had confidence in 1990 that Gorbachev would not nuke someone to save the Soviet Union. Can you say with any conviction that this is true for Trump now? > > If you can, you’re an even bigger fucking idiot than a Muslim Trumper. What the fuck are you on about? I did t say I voted for him, I was just trying to help convey how desperate and hopeless people who care about Palestinian genocide feel. Most people here don’t care about it, which is made evident by how quickly you all dismiss their concerns. I was just trying to explain how a decent person might think and feel. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1685 "2026-04-24T20:52:56Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > Why do we continue to support this atrocity? Because the Jews must have a place to go when Jesus comes back and slaughters, IIRC, one third of them. As I’m heard from some Israel supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1686 "2026-04-24T21:13:16Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Because the Jews must have a place to go when Jesus comes back and slaughters, IIRC, one third of them. As I’m heard from some Israel supporters. [Zechariah 13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah%2013&version=NIV) being one of the common references to that concept. > In the whole land,” declares the Lord, > “two-thirds will be struck down and perish; > yet one-third will be left in it. > 9 > This third I will put into the fire; > I will refine them like silver > and test them like gold. > They will call on my name > and I will answer them; > I will say, ‘They are my people,’ > and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’ “And the survivors convert to Christianity” is also a common assertion from such people. It’s all deeply anti-Semitic, but the Israelis go along with it for their own advantage because after all, it’s not a prophecy from their own religion and they’ve no fear of a prophecy they don’t believe in. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1687 "2026-04-24T21:16:54Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > “And the survivors convert to Christianity” is also a common assertion from such people. Sad victims of innumeracy. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1688 "2026-04-24T21:31:35Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I was just trying to explain how a decent person might think and feel. This right here tells me how deluded you are. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1689 "2026-04-24T21:46:39Z")
I love how sanctimonious you’re being about not acting about a genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1690 "2026-04-24T22:00:20Z")
Possibly because the entire notion of a “Palestinian genocide” is Russian propaganda in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1691 "2026-04-24T22:01:19Z")
Peddle that Flavor-Aid somewhere else; nobody’s buying it here. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1692 "2026-04-24T22:05:38Z")
I know. That’s how Trump got elected. That was what Russia wanted and y’all gave it to them. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1693 "2026-04-24T22:20:35Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Possibly because the entire notion of a “Palestinian genocide” is Russian propaganda in the first place. Oh, nonsense, it’s a longstanding policy of Israel, it’s doing to the Palestinians exactly what the US did to the Native Americans. Are you going to claim the genocide of the Native Americans is a Russian hoax too? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1694 "2026-04-24T22:24:12Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Oh, nonsense, it’s a longstanding policy of Israel, Cite that the extermination of the Arab race is “a longstanding policy of Israel”, please. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1695 "2026-04-24T22:26:51Z")
Holy moving goalposts, Batman! Nobody claimed that. Israel is colonizing Palestine, exactly (as pointed out above) the way the US colonized North America: peaceful settlements which nevertheless change control of the land, occasional armed conflict, discriminatory laws… the whole ball of wax. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1696 "2026-04-24T22:29:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Cite that the extermination of the Arab race is “a longstanding policy of Israel”, please. It’s an expansionist colonial power. That’s literally what it’s _for._ The Palestinians exist, therefore they will be killed. Then Israel will move onto the next target and kill them too. _Lebensraum_ for the chosen people is needed, and they’ll keep taking it until they hit someone they can’t overwhelm. Probably ending in them being destroyed in a nuclear war, eventually, if climate change doesn’t get them first. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1697 "2026-04-24T22:39:36Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s an expansionist colonial power. Explain how the indigenous population can be “colonizing” their own homeland which they have continously inhabited for 3,000 years, please. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1698 "2026-04-24T22:43:27Z")
I love the way you exclude the middle. Vote for Trump or you’re a genocide proponent. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1699 "2026-04-24T22:50:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Explain how the indigenous population can be “colonizing” their own homeland which they have continously inhabited for 3,000 years, please. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in what-is-now Israel / Palestine since ancient times. The vast majority of Jews have not lived in what-is-now Israel / Palestine since ancient times. The State of Israel is a modern entity which did not exist before 1948. The Zionist movement is a modern phenomenon which did not exist before the 19th century. There has been a continuous Arab presence in what-is-now Israel / Palestine since at least the 7th century. All of the above statements are true. My people have been continuously inhabiting their countries in Europe for thousands of years, and my ancestors only left about 65 years before I was born, but nevertheless I have no right of abode, and if a bunch of us (X)-Americans suddenly moved in, it would quite rightly be seen as colonization. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1700 "2026-04-24T23:05:31Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I love how sanctimonious you’re being about not acting about a genocide. Don’t vote for the genocide and your non vote is currently allowing the ethnic cleansing of America. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/1701 "2026-04-24T23:10:03Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > My people have been continuously inhabiting their countries in Europe for thousands of years, and my ancestors only left about 65 years before I was born, but nevertheless I have no right of abode, and if a bunch of us (X)-Americans suddenly moved in, it would quite rightly be seen as colonization. I guess the Arab states should have thought of that when they decided to forcibly expel their Jewish citizens 80 years ago, then. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=86)