# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2108 "2026-04-28T16:07:09Z")
I would not spend much energy on them. Why would I? They said they wanted to vote against Trump, that’s good enough for me. If they called me hysterical for any of my beliefs, I would cut them out of my life. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2109 "2026-04-28T16:10:49Z")
That’s all I’ve been asking for. If there are people who are voting against Trump and the Republicans but who have other views you disagree with, don’t argue with them about those other views. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2110 "2026-04-28T16:22:19Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s all I’ve been asking for. If there are people who are voting against Trump and the Republicans but who have other views you disagree with, don’t argue with them about those other views. Has anyone disagreed with this sentiment? I know i said: > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > You have to define your priorities. > > > > You believe Trump is going to kill millions of people. What should be your top priority? > > > > Stopping Trump, even if it means you have to work with people who don’t believe that Trump is going to kill millions of people and working with them means you have to smile while concealing your opinions. Because stopping Trump from killing millions of people is the top priority. > > > > Proclaiming your beliefs, even if it means you’ll be telling people who disagree with those beliefs that they’re idiots and alienating them from the cause. Because making sure everyone knows what you personally believe is the top priority > > Once again, why not both? > > I mean, back when there was a chance of defeating Trump in the general election, there was a good argument that pointing out the parallels between Trump and Hitler was a bad strategy when trying to win over swing voters. Not because those parallels weren’t there, but because swing voters tended to tune out anyone who talked about it. > > And, in fact, when i went door to door canvassing, i talked about the impact of the tariffs he’d promised, and the promises he’d broken, and the grifting he’d done, and how he’d personally killed the bipartisan border control bill that would have reduced our illegal immigrant issues because he wanted that to be an issue going into the election, and… And i avoided taking about the violence he’d promised to trans people, because i knew that wasn’t a generally popular issue. Know the room. And, of course, for the non-swing voters, where and how to vote. > > But again, know the room. This board leans heavily anti-Trump, and his fascist tendencies are much more obvious than before his second term. _This board_ is a fine place to point that out. And people who are terrified of the fascist are highly motivated to attempt to stop Trump. They are the ones most likely to: > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > I have participated in anti-ICE demonstrations and I donate money to the DNC on a regular basis. > > They are also the ones holding cameras, to document the crimes committed at his behest, at significant personal risk. They are the ones gathering the data that helps the courts restrain him. > > There is no harm, and some benefit, when anti-Trump folks support each other, and remind each other what the issues are. Like in the SDMB pit. > > I think you owe an apology to a lot of posters here. And fwiw, i was also offended that you implied i am hysterical. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2111 "2026-04-28T16:30:25Z")
That’s why I said I am mad at you for your behavior and not your ideas. Your behavior has been incredibly offensive, and the fact that you think you haven’t been rude is sure … something. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2112 "2026-04-28T16:36:49Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > And fwiw, i was also offended that you implied i am hysterical. I didn’t mean to imply you were hysterical for the things you described. You were going around telling people they shouldn’t vote for Trump for valid reasons. That’s not hysteria. As you said, you knew the room. But if somebody was going door to door telling people they shouldn’t vote for Trump because he’s running death camps, that would be hysteria. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2113 "2026-04-28T16:38:53Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > That’s why I said I am mad at you for your behavior and not your ideas. > > Your behavior has been incredibly offensive, and the fact that you think you haven’t been rude is sure … something. Okay, again, give me an example. A post from this thread where you feel I was being incredibly offensive. Think of it as your chance to educate me. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2114 "2026-04-28T16:44:41Z")
Every time you have called people ‘hysterical’. > **[The feminisation of madness is crazy | Mind your language](https://www.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2012/mar/08/mind-your-language-feminisation-madness)** > > Gary Nunn: Women are undervalued because our language stigmatises them as shrill and hysterical. On International Women's Day, it's time to redress the balance And I encourage you to go back and look at the many, many links I have already provided.. Think of it as your chance to educate yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2115 "2026-04-28T16:57:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And the message I’m communicating is you need to be able to have a polite discussion with people… FYI, that’s not at all the message you’ve been communicating. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2116 "2026-04-28T17:01:40Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > Every time you have called people ‘hysterical’. Are you saying that hysteria doesn’t exist? And that therefore any accusation of hysteria must be false and offensive? I doubt this. So I’m guessing that what you mean is that there have been some instances in this thread where I accused a person of behaving hysterically when they were not. Is that correct? If so, can you point me to a specific post where I did that? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2117 "2026-04-28T17:02:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But if somebody was going door to door telling people they shouldn’t vote for Trump because he’s running death camps, that would be hysteria. No, it would be poor marketing. Trump wasn’t running anything during the election, so I’ll assume you meant people going door to door saying that _if elected_ Trump _will_ run death camps. The ICE detention camps aren’t gassing the detained. There’s a pretty high mortality rate, due to mistreatment, but they aren’t actively killing people. But you know, Hitler’s concentration camps didn’t gas the detained at first, either. Are we on that path? Yes, i believe we are. There are lots of exits from that path, and i think there’s a decent chance we’ll take one. But i also think there’s a nontrivial chance we won’t. That being said, on Saturday i went to a protest, and a guy handed me a sign with two sides. One side said something about detention camps with little swastikas replacing the "E"s. I choose to hold it showing the other side. Because despite my beliefs, i still judge that’s not the persuasive thing to say. And indeed, when i gave the sign back to the guy who brought it, he held it the other way (showing the swastikas), and one passerby pointed at the sign and said, “that’s offensive”. After he left, the protesters (there were only 5 of us, in front of a bank that is courting business with ICE) chatted about the interaction. And i mentioned that i had chosen to hold the sign the other way, because I’m more interested in persuasion than in expressing outrage. The guy who brought the sign is more interested in spurring to action those who agree with him, so he’s going for outage. But: it’s basically a marketing choice. If you want to say that you pit anti-Trump marketing that’s based on extrapolation, rather than based on what he’s already done, go for it. I think that thesis would have generated a very different discussion, and a more productive one. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2118 "2026-04-28T17:03:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > FYI, that’s not at all the message you’ve been communicating. That’s all the message I started with. I did later add a second message, which was that personal attacks do not produce successful communication with the person you’re directing them at. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2119 "2026-04-28T17:03:59Z")
Hysteria is an offensive, uncharitable way of describing some behaviors that do exist. You would get much better results if you learned how to describe those behaviors without using a deeply loaded sexist term. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2120 "2026-04-28T17:05:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > FYI, that’s not at all the message you’ve been communicating. > > That’s all the message I started with. No it’s not. You started by speaking of “hysteria”. It’s right there in the title of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2121 "2026-04-28T17:05:58Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > FYI, that’s not at all the message you’ve been communicating. This. You poisoned the well from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2122 "2026-04-28T17:06:57Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > No it’s not. You started by speaking of “hysteria”. It’s right there in the title of the thread. So are you saying any use of the word hysteria is offensive? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2123 "2026-04-28T17:08:01Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > This. You poisoned the well from the beginning. Please answer the question I’ve been asking. Don’t just say I did it. Show me the post or posts where I did it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2124 "2026-04-28T17:08:29Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s all the message I started with. No, it wasn’t. That might have been what you were trying, but what you actually achieved was… different. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2125 "2026-04-28T17:08:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So are you saying any use of the word hysteria is offensive? You have already demonstrated your deliberate lack of reading comprehension. Could you please move on? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2126 "2026-04-28T17:09:25Z")
Any chance of getting this back to the anti-Trump hysteria? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2127 "2026-04-28T17:09:28Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Has anyone disagreed with this sentiment? Without rereading this painfully stupid thread, No one except for the strawmen in Little\_Nemo’s head. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=98)