# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2148 "2026-04-28T17:46:09Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I also think it made the sign less effective. Because of how marketing works. But I’m not going to insult him about it. Because we do need everyone who is on our side. I agree. I feel you did the right thing for the right reason. You were willing to overlook something you disagreed with because you saw the bigger picture of opposing Trump was more important. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2149 "2026-04-28T17:46:25Z")
Fwiw, i totally agree that calling a funny play “hysterical” is not offensive, but referring to a person’s political choices as “hysterical” is pretty much always offensive. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2150 "2026-04-28T17:47:11Z")
So, are you ready to apologize to all the anti-Trump people you have offended in this thread? For example, me? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2151 "2026-04-28T17:47:35Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > No and no, no, yes, no, and kind of So you get a pass and I don’t? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2152 "2026-04-28T17:49:48Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > So, are you ready to apologize to all the anti-Trump people you have offended in this thread? For example, me? Absolutely. I apologize if anything I said offended you. None of what I said was directed towards you. From what you have said, I fully support the way you acted. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2153 "2026-04-28T17:51:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So you get a pass and I don’t? You are like a vicious little “ELIZA” program, an endless series of questions leading to other questions. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2154 "2026-04-28T17:52:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I disagree. The phrase “sucking them off” was used to describe doing something offensive. No it wasn’t. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I also disagree that I have in any way invalidated the valid concerns gay people have about their future in this administration. Have you been following what’s happening in Idaho lately? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2155 "2026-04-28T17:53:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Absolutely. I apologize if anything I said offended you. Nice, the non apology apology! Here’s a fish. [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ35wPL22qutiwkIyDENQ1NsBwesymF3IcgyA&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ35wPL22qutiwkIyDENQ1NsBwesymF3IcgyA&s) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2156 "2026-04-28T17:53:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Absolutely. I apologize if anything I said offended you. None of what I said was directed towards you. Please list some of the people you have offended. If you can’t, your “apology” isn’t worth shit. “I apologize if anything I said offended you” takes all the blame and shoves off onto others, and is worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2157 "2026-04-28T18:18:36Z")
You are the thread starter. Our positions in this discourse are not the same. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2158 "2026-04-28T18:20:18Z")
> [@Frilly\_Heck](#): > > I do think there are more vs. less constructive ways to talk about all of this, but one thing I find unconstructive is dismissing potential fears as “hysteria.” Are all of them going to happen? I doubt it. And yet, government goons are kidnapping my neighbors, and sending them to god-knows-where. That’s a real thing that’s happening. Call me hysterical, but that scares me. Just FYI, this is from my first post in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2159 "2026-04-28T18:23:31Z")
Thanks, and I appreciate you weighing in on it. I intended to be vulgar; I have no intention to be homophobic. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2160 "2026-04-28T18:46:10Z")
Also, I want to clarify that this thread is not yet a year old. It started in August of last year. It just _feels_ like it’s been a year. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2161 "2026-04-28T19:34:11Z")
Thank you. You said that much better than i. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2162 "2026-04-28T19:36:23Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > I also think it made the sign less effective. Because of how marketing works. But I’m not going to insult him about it. Because we do need everyone who is on our side. > > I agree. I feel you did the right thing for the right reason. You were willing to overlook something you disagreed with because you saw the bigger picture of opposing Trump was more important. So, you see how you have pissed off lots of fellow travelers, and your recognize the error of your posting? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2163 "2026-04-29T15:18:26Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > So, you see how you have pissed off lots of fellow travelers, and your recognize the error of your posting? Not at all. I’m more confident that I’m right than I was when I started this thread. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2164 "2026-04-29T15:21:09Z")
And yet, you agree that i was right not to get into a fight with the guy with the swastika sign. There’s kinda a disconnect there. Do you really think it was right to insult half the board and create a fight? When you could have argued what i think is the core part of your post without insulting anyone, using language such as i suggested: > [@puzzlegal](#): > > If you want to say that you pit anti-Trump marketing that’s based on extrapolation, rather than based on what he’s already done, go for it. I think that thesis would have generated a very different discussion, and a more productive one. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2165 "2026-04-29T15:21:55Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > Absolutely. I apologize if anything I said offended you. > > Nice, the non apology apology! “I apologize if you were offended.” - Fake apology. Implies the person who was offended was the one who was wrong. “I apologize if anything I said offended you.” - Real apology. Accepts that the speaker is the one whose actions caused the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2166 "2026-04-29T15:24:47Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > And yet, you agree that i was right not to get into a fight with the guy with the swastika sign. There’s kinda a disconnect there. I agree that you personally are not one of the people I was addressing this thread to. I feel this thread has demonstrated that plenty of people like I described exist. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/2167 "2026-04-29T15:25:48Z")
I added to my post after you started writing, i think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=100)