Did you miss the part where they expected me to be able to guarantee something no human can?
(Please note where I said the process was to weed out psycho choke collar abusers)
Only if the criteria is the Sarah Palin School of Debate.
I’ll accept that places such as you describe exist. It is a big country and there are all sorts out there. I just have not personally run into them (I have run into individual animal freaks that act as you describe but they are not running a fake adoption agency…at least not as far as I was aware).
That said I have spent lots of time around animals and love them (even the ugly ones). I used to volunteer for the Anti Cruelty Society in Chicago and ran into “interesting” characters on both sides of the fence (other volunteers as well as those wishing to adopt). Life in a big city I guess.
At least at the ACS if a given volunteer gets a little too picky the would-be adopter can easily ask for staff (who are always there and very responsive). Volunteers are there to help and communicate ACS policies but if they decide to take too much onto themselves to thwart someone wanting to adopt it is a simple matter to sidestep the volunteer. Staff will dutifully apply ACS policy, simple as that. That policy is open for all to see from their website to pamphlets at their location. There should be no surprises to anyone wishing to adopt as to what the ACS requires of them.
It is not that complicated.
More importantly the ACS genuinely wants to adopt out the animals they have. They want nothing more than to see their pets find loving homes.
Okie Dokey.
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There is a continuum from not walking the dog for 12 hours once in awhile to what I just mentioned or worse (and yeah, there is even worse).
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If you want to sit up in this thread pretending that thinking adults can’t figure out what you meant by these statements, cool. But it may have been easier for me to play along if you hadn’t posted that graphic photo. That was just pitiful.
Where textbooks are optional, every day is “class photo” day, and everyone drops out mid-semester?
I once tried like hell to get a dog from a rescue organization. Sent in the application, followed up with a phone call in a couple weeks. They were still sorting through applications and calling references. Let’s just say that this charade went on for months. I kept following up, offering to come visit, even offering to pay more than their standard fee or make an extra donation if they would expedite the process for me. They kept feeding me this line about reviewing applications and calling references. Finally I specifically asked if I should just give up on them and they said, “oh no, no you’re application is wonderful we want to come interview you.” Another month goes by and I’m still getting the runaround and finally, 3 months after sending the first application, I gave up on it. I have no idea what their game was, but the whole thing was quite maddening. I ended up getting a dog from someone on craigslist, which I considered a rescue in itself.
What? You think that the right place to put an unsocialized Pit mix is with an intact male and no fenced-in yard? Did I misunderstand? WTF are they doing with an intact male? Do they have any idea of the energy level of a Pit Bull? Do you?
I recently adopted a Pit Bull (out of necessity, to save his life) and there is absolutely no way I could have made it work without a fence. This boy is 100% muscle and his throttle is stuck on balls to the wall. If I couldn’t boot him out of the house several times a day one or both of us would go crazy.
Well, it sounded to me as though you were being scrupulously hyper-conscientious (or jerkishly nitpicky, depending on one’s viewpoint) in your interpretation of that “guarantee”:
If I fully intended to do everything reasonably in my power to make sure that the kitten would never get outside for the rest of its life, I would not consider it a “lie” to promise the agency that the kitten would never get outside for the rest of its life. So I would have filled out the paperwork and got the kitten.
But then, I’m clearly not as scrupulously hyper-conscientious (or jerkishly nitpicky, depending on one’s viewpoint) as you are.
You took unrelated quotes which were responding to different questions and strung them together.
Bet I could sift through your posting history and string together stuff to make it seem you said almost anything I wanted you to.
Protip…context is important.
Nice try though.
The ‘nice try’ was that graphic photo you posted (with a trigger warning for all of us nut jobs who are anti-animal abuse.)
Interesting…I can make you do things remotely like clicking on links you do not want to. Good to know.
And I described what was in the link just below it so following the link was not necessary.
I was answering a question about someone “not getting” better off dead. I was illustrating the case in a way words simply cannot convey.
I also noted I did not include dogs being better off dead if they are denied a squeaky toy. Like I mentioned all the way back in Post #15 there is a continuum of abuse from truly minor to horrid.
But hey, easier to just cherry pick the parts you want to quote and ignore the rest.
You guys have ceased to make any sense, and are now arguing for the sake of having the last word.
All the cats me and my family (when I lived with them) had were, in order from earliest to latest:
- Free kitten
- Free kitten
- Stray cat
- Free kitten
- Stray * 2
- Stray kittens * 4 (4 abandoned kittens found in a field by a lake)
- Stray cat
- Free kittens * 5 (yes, all 5 were adopted by us)
We never paid a cent to acquire any of them, and they were all loved and lived to very old ages - only one less than 15 years.
I never clicked the link.
Hah! He must have made you not do it. Run tell that.
I had the same issue. In my case, the wanted me to promise that I would never give up the dog. I have two kids. They take priority over our (loved, spoiled, and well treated) dog. If the dog acts aggressive to the kids, if he can’t be quickly and safely trained out of it, if he needs to be dominant over the children - that isn’t a dog I can have in my house. I cannot answer to the personality of a rescue dog I have not yet met and found on the web site. I cannot promise that “yes, I will take this dog and keep this dog.” I am interested in this dog. But it has to be a good fit for both of us - I’m not promising sight unseen that I’ll take care of this dog for the rest of his days - even if he is a poor fit for my family.
Maybe I should have simply said yes, I would (though there were other problems - no one is home all day - they didn’t like that, the yard isn’t fenced - they didn’t like that, I hadn’t had a dog in ten years - they didn’t like that.)
We adopted a child. That process was less invasive and judgmental than the first rescue agency I worked with. Now, I’m just not going to buy that is because we are LESS concerned with children being abused than dogs. Its because social workers actually have a concept of BOUNDARIES.
The dog is better off dead than living with you, anyways.
I mean, you didn’t have a fenced yard so clearly its minimum needs aren’t being met and it’s utter torture for that poor pup.
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It takes a couple of years to get a dog well-trained, though many of the basics can be covered in the first couple of months. I am not thinking in terms of a couple of months. Last I heard, if parental leave is offered in the US, it’s generally limited to six weeks, at best, though I could be wrong.[/qyuote]
Family medical leave act requires at least 12 weeks of unpaid leave.
Yeah that’s why I waited until my kid stopped pinching people.
Having animals around is highly correlated to a lower incidence of all types of allergies in kids.
Yeah if every dog was going to get adopted anyways then you might as well be picky. I hear you but at some point it can become obnoxious.
If there is such a disparity in the number of dogs avaialble at shelters across the country, why doesn’t some worthy charity redistribute from palces where there are a lot to places where they end up euthanizing anything that isn’t a cute little puppy?
I disagree here. I think the puppy mills should be on everyone’s list of things to make obsolete, at least everyone who volunteers at a shelter.
Yeah I’m gonna try a different shelter this weekend. I think the part that really put me off was the home inspection PRIOR to adoption. The shelter was really nice and the dogs seemed really happy so maybe they are better off staying there.
This other shelter I called said I could take an animal home the same day if things worked out.