# I pit Pantsuits.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106 "2009-05-20T19:55:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/61 "2009-05-21T03:20:11Z")

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Is the OP [this OP’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=518203&highlight=hair) dad?

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/62 "2009-05-21T04:53:27Z")

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Plus, I can’t believe women still wear pantyhose in some places. It’s an anachronism around here- they quit wearing hose here any time of year long ago. It’s awesome.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/63 "2009-05-21T05:19:10Z")

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> [@MN\_Maenad](#):
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> And some of us need to be able to go out on to the production floor at a moment’s notice, which means no skirts, no open-toed shoes, and (gasp!) no makeup or jewelry.

I can understand jewelry and shoes, but is your makeup likely to get caught in the machinery? If so, i can only assume you are wearing too much.

Also, all of you ladies in bikinis that are too small, or in really really short skirts, or in cheerleader outfits and french maids, you look like hermaphrodites. Especially when you try to strike sexy poses. And maybe if you pretended to be in a ZZ Top video. That’s right. Now do a half turn, and look over your shoulder. And don’t even think about wearing a hooters outfit.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/64 "2009-05-21T06:48:50Z")

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One is quite likely to get dirty and sweaty on the production floor, which makes makeup run. Personally, I think that makeup that has run and splotched looks far worse, and far less professional, than no makeup at all. Plus, if you try to wipe away the sweat and dirt, the makeup gets smeared around, with…interesting…results.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/65 "2009-05-21T07:42:44Z")

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**AK84** , are you talking about pant suits like these??  
[Tahari by ASL Pinstripe Pant Suit](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=362988&CategoryID=39098)  
[Tahari by ASL Flap-Pocket Notch-Collar Pant Suit](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=367013&CategoryID=39098)

Because those look pretty nice, although I admit they probably only look good because they’re on skinny, pretty models. Also, I think those super-high heels look so stupid with pants.

Now I do agree that suits with skirts look more feminine, such as these gorgeous ensembles:  
[Calvin Klein Pinstriped One-Button Long Jacket & Pencil Skirt](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=374145&CategoryID=39097)  
[Tahari 3-Button Round Collar Skirt Suit](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=369785&CategoryID=39097) (This one is especially cute!)

Although, why are all skirts these days slightly above knee length? I’d love all my skirts to be about 3-4 inches below the knee, or even mid-calf or slightly above ankle length.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/66 "2009-05-21T11:13:05Z")

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I’m still trying to figure out how its the OPs business to determine whether or not any woman he encounters is wearing something sufficiently feminine. If it’s comfortable to the woman, and acceptable in the place where she is, that’s all that matters. It’s not your business. Grow up, get a life and butt out.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/67 "2009-05-21T12:00:50Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> I’m still trying to figure out how its the OPs business to determine whether or not any woman he encounters is wearing something sufficiently feminine. If it’s comfortable to the woman, and acceptable in the place where she is, that’s all that matters. It’s not your business. Grow up, get a life and butt out.

Really bad thing about “rights” other people have them too. They have a right to wear something which looks unprofessional and I have a right to say that I think its is. Anjd you know what, those who look unprofessional usually are just that. Male and female.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/68 "2009-05-21T12:48:02Z")

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But you’ve utterly failed to express what you mean by that. Do you really think that [this](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=362988&CategoryID=39098) looks unprofessional?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/69 "2009-05-21T12:53:17Z")

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> [@Rosie\_is\_Tired](#):
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> Im not sure I could be mistaken for male in that.

You look totally hot in that picture, dude.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/70 "2009-05-21T12:53:57Z")

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> [@Rosie\_is\_Tired](#):
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> So Im still a little confused about what “pantsuits” you are finding to be unacceptable.
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> The following link should (I hope, I hate flickr) go to the only picture of me in a pantsuit I could find, though I no longer wear that one, as I gained enough weight for it to be uncomfortable (and to be honest, I was almost there in that picture)
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> [IMG\_0394 | Rosie is busy | Flickr](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30454492@N04/2954493463/)
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> Im not sure I could be mistaken for male in that.

Dang that looks classy. How could anyone hate on that?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/71 "2009-05-21T12:58:48Z")

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> [@LunarPlexus](#):
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> How do you reckon you’d look if you left it on?

Worse than naked.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/72 "2009-05-21T12:59:30Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Try, just try, wearing skirts at work sometime. Make sure you wear pantyhose, too. Panty hose that is unbearably hot in the summer, not really warm enough in the winter, and that will snag every other day, meaning that you have to shell out the bucks for a new pair a couple of times a week. You can’t wear skirts without hose at the workplace, which was one of my main grievances against wearing skirts to work. Look at the price of pantyhose, at least, and remember, you need to get “day sheer”, and you have to get at least midprice brands.
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> As it happens, I wear skirts exclusively now, but that’s because I pretty much only wear patio/lounge dresses. When I was working outside the home, however, pantsuits were the only available option if I needed to look at least somewhat professional and didn’t want to wear a skirt.
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> If you don’t like pantsuits, what do you suggest that women wear if they don’t like skirts?

You must have gone to the same School of Professional Dress that I attended. However, the “pantyhose at the office” thing died about 6 years ago. Pantyhose are considered “out” in office wear. Anyone under 40 thinks you’re goofy if you wear them at all. This bums me out to no end.

By the way, I find pantsuits (both the feminized ones and the ones that echo a masculine look) to be very professional.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/73 "2009-05-21T13:08:47Z")

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I’m job hunting at the moment, and I’m astounded by how often I’m told I should wear hose to interviews. A temp agency that I considered signing with not only included hose in the dress code, but the agent made a point of mentioning it (and I was wearing pants at the time, so it’s not as though she was telling me because I was wearing a skirt without hose).

I love skirts, but pantyhose are the work of the devil and I have no truck with Satan, so pants it is.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/74 "2009-05-21T13:25:36Z")

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I think you should wear a skirt with knee high panty hose to the interviews.  
Classy!

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/75 "2009-05-21T13:30:01Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> I think you should wear a skirt with knee high panty hose to the interviews.  
> Classy!

You are SOOO Vogue. (Strike a pose)

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/76 "2009-05-21T13:35:13Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Wait, what? Pants are more comfortable in the hot summer than a skirt/hose? This thread makes me glad my suit-wearing days are over (especially the ones in DC!).

In my home town’s above-40C-summers, aye. Actually, the only thing that’s comfortable at those times is hiding in a house in the old part of town… you know, the ones with meter-thick walls?

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/77 "2009-05-21T13:36:22Z")

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I feel nekkid without hose when I wear a skirt. I don’t get it, don’t like it, and won’t do it. I don’t find pantyhose uncomfortable at all. I know I’m in the minority there.

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**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/78 "2009-05-21T13:43:04Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> You must have gone to the same School of Professional Dress that I attended. However, the “pantyhose at the office” thing died about 6 years ago. Pantyhose are considered “out” in office wear. Anyone under 40 thinks you’re goofy if you wear them at all. This bums me out to no end.

The “demise” of hose is based on fake tanning, people under 40 whose legs look pretty good, and the prevalence of business casual over professional dress. Is fake tanning less of a pain than pantyhose? I am unconvinced. And if those folks are still bare legged at 40+, when they’ve advanced in their careers, I’ll be surprised. Not that I don’t await the demise of hose, but I don’t believe it’s really dead.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/79 "2009-05-21T13:46:55Z")

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I don’t think it has anything to do with fake tanning, I see plenty of pasty white legs around. I think it has more to do with the fact that pantyhose are uncomfortable, expensive, and pretty friggin’ silly when you think about it. What on earth is inherently “more professional” about simulated skin?

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/80 "2009-05-21T13:51:27Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> I don’t think it has anything to do with fake tanning, I see plenty of pasty white legs around. I think it has more to do with the fact that pantyhose are uncomfortable, expensive, and pretty friggin’ silly when you think about it. What on earth is inherently “more professional” about simulated skin?

The fact that all Fortune 500 women leaders have to wrestle nylons in the bathroom is just one more reason why I will never head up a fortune 500 company.

That, and the small fact I have zero qualifications or desire to run a 500 company.

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