# I pit Pantsuits.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106 "2009-05-20T19:55:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/81 "2009-05-21T13:51:47Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> When you are can speak five languages, no they don’t. 😉

None of those five are English, I take it.

Tip: if you’re going to insult people on the Internet, “hermaphrodite” is a very useful word to know.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/82 "2009-05-21T13:56:43Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Five and a half, if you count English!

😃

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/83 "2009-05-21T13:57:54Z")

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> [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](#):
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> The “demise” of hose is based on fake tanning, people under 40 whose legs look pretty good, and the prevalence of business casual over professional dress. Is fake tanning less of a pain than pantyhose? I am unconvinced. And if those folks are still bare legged at 40+, when they’ve advanced in their careers, I’ll be surprised. Not that I don’t await the demise of hose, but I don’t believe it’s really dead.

I agree. I worked at a large campus in my last office gig. I was amazed at how many younger women did the no-hose thing. The older ones still did it. I also notice that opaque hose are very popular in this area (on account of cold freekin’ winters). But on hot summer days, even the old broads were doing the bare legs thing. Shudder! :eek: The thought of it makes me uncomfortable.

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**Author:** ![flyboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4da419/32.png) [@flyboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyboy)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/84 "2009-05-21T14:04:50Z")

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Women in well-fitting business wear, be it skirt or pantsuit–very sexy. Glasses are a bonus. The whole look screams smart, motivated, classy, independent. Nothing wrong with that.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/85 "2009-05-21T14:06:07Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#):
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> Hampahrodites?

Maybe he meant Hamas-phrodites. They believe in a two-sex solution in the Promised Land.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/86 "2009-05-21T14:09:54Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Worse than naked.

That is undeniable.

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**Author:** ![RedRosesForMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RedRosesForMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedRosesForMe)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/87 "2009-05-21T14:12:27Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> I have yet to see a really stylish pantsuit, one that actually looks good on a real woman, as opposed to a model in a catalouge.

I’m thinking that unless these stylish pantsuits that everyone’s linking to aren’t available in England\* (which I doubt), what he’s really unhappy about is that the women don’t look like models. Obviously, **Rosie** has posted a picture proving that the pantsuits sold off the rack are in fact the same ones they the models are pictured in. They’re not pulling some scam where the models are pictured in cothes that don’t actually exist and selling some scaled down versions of men’s clothing.

So maybe what he’s really saying is, “Hey fatty! You already don’t live up to the feminine ideal with that belly and those thunder thighs, so why don’t you hide that under a skirt so I don’t confuse you with a man with long hair?”

😉

Still, kind of stupid. We don’t have any evidence of this unprofessional dress, and even I own a pantsuit for job interviews and the like (tweed rocks, I wish I could wear it more often in Florida) that I purchased from- wait for it -Walmart.

\*Or whereever the OP’s from where the men dress like that.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/88 "2009-05-21T14:16:58Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> That is undeniable.

Oh my.

Dearie, I think you’d look awful in a pantsuit. If I saw you in one, I’d tear if off of your body.

With my teeth.

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**Author:** ![scareyfaerie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scareyfaerie/32/3135_2.png) [@scareyfaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scareyfaerie)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/89 "2009-05-21T14:27:23Z")

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> [@RedRosesForMe](#):
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> I’m thinking that unless these stylish pantsuits that everyone’s linking to aren’t available in England\* \<snip\>

If he lives in the UK, he’s not going to be too far from [M&S](http://www.marksandspencer.com/gp/product/B001X6FTVK/sr=1-3/qid=1242915880/ref=sr_1_3/279-7276464-5719021?ie=UTF8&node=83177031&m=A2BO0OYVBKIQJM&keywords=&mnSBrand=core&size=9&rh=&page=) where you can pick up one of these…

I am not required to wear “dress” suits of any kind at work, we’re a pretty casual office although I like to look reasonably smart. Tailored trousers are always good, although I do sometimes wear skirts but only if I can wear boots with them. Longer skirt with calf-length boots, shorter skirt with knee-high boots. No pantyhose (we call 'em tights), never. That’s an abomination.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/90 "2009-05-21T14:28:49Z")

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See, **AK84**? _That’s_ how you get rid of a pantsuit. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/91 "2009-05-21T15:49:17Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Oh my.
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> Dearie, I think you’d look awful in a pantsuit. If I saw you in one, I’d tear if off of your body.
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> With my teeth.

When I grow up, I want to be you.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/92 "2009-05-21T16:00:15Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> **AK84** , are you talking about pant suits like these??  
> [Tahari by ASL Pinstripe Pant Suit](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=362988&CategoryID=39098)  
> [Tahari by ASL Flap-Pocket Notch-Collar Pant Suit](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=367013&CategoryID=39098)
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> Because those look pretty nice, although I admit they probably only look good because they’re on skinny, pretty models. Also, I think those super-high heels look so stupid with pants.
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> Now I do agree that suits with skirts look more feminine, such as these gorgeous ensembles:  
> [Calvin Klein Pinstriped One-Button Long Jacket & Pencil Skirt](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=374145&CategoryID=39097)  
> [Tahari 3-Button Round Collar Skirt Suit](http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=369785&CategoryID=39097) (This one is especially cute!)
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> Although, why are all skirts these days slightly above knee length? I’d love all my skirts to be about 3-4 inches below the knee, or even mid-calf or slightly above ankle length.

I think the Pants Suited models above are waay hotter than the Skirt ones…  
I think the Skirt models would cause me to pay more attention to them as a person while the pant suits would make me go “wow! That’s kinda sexy!”  
At least in the case of the models presented there.  
YMMV.

So I guess around me, you should just wear skirts. To be safe.  
Or Pantsuits. I wouldn’t complain.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/93 "2009-05-21T16:14:23Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> When I grow up, I want to be you.

😃

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/94 "2009-05-21T16:22:34Z")

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I’m 33 and have simply ceased wearing hose and never will wear it again. I’ll wear _tights_ (thick opaque pantyhoe) in the wintertime, occasionally, but I hate hose. It is an abomination and like bras, some man somewhere planned it without having any idea of what it really feels like. Come to think of it, I don’t even understand trans people who wear them. Here I am throwing off the shackles of dress and you are putting them back on. 🙂

In my current job we do a lot of business casual so I wear lots of knee-length skirts in the summer and fall without hose, just bare legs. I have naturally tanned legs and I maintain my feet, so I really don’t care beyond that. I admit I am lucky in that my legs start out at a natural tan, but honestly, pantyhose are tres stupid. If a woman likes to wear them, more power to her, but I refuse to wear them myself - especially the ultra-thin hose that tears as soon as you look at it.

But if I go on an interview guranteed it’s a pantsuit. I just feel more comfortable and don’t have to worry about the skirt.

Every man who complains women don’t wear enough skirts needs to cross dress for a full year and then get back to us.

> [@Declan](#):
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> Can I make a shout out for a monokini from Victorias Secret, with a mini sarong wrap around ?

Then you’ll bitch because of all the unattractive girls or plain Janes dare to show too much skin. Can’t win.

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**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/95 "2009-05-21T16:37:09Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> I can understand jewelry and shoes, but is your makeup likely to get caught in the machinery? If so, i can only assume you are wearing too much.

It’s more of a contamination thing than a safety thing. I work in a(n almost) cleanroom.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/96 "2009-05-21T16:46:25Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Come to think of it, I don’t even understand trans people who wear them. Here I am throwing off the shackles of dress and you are putting them back on. 🙂

Presumably, trans women wear them because they’re a visual cue for gender.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/97 "2009-05-21T17:18:00Z")

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I only wear pantyhose to job interviews. I never see a woman under 40 wearing hose anymore. (I very rarely see a woman over 40 not, though, of course. Especially black ladies. My middle aged black coworkers didn’t believe me when I said young women, including me, never wear hose anymore - one of them snuck up on me to feel my leg the next day. I don’t know why she thought I’d buy hose in the horrible color my legs are!)

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**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/98 "2009-05-21T19:52:44Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> I feel nekkid without hose when I wear a skirt. I don’t get it, don’t like it, and won’t do it. I don’t find pantyhose uncomfortable at all. I know I’m in the minority there.

While I don’t care for hose (I prefer dark colored tights) and find them uncomfortable I totally feel naked without some leg coverage with skirts. Which is a lovely way to feel on a spring or summer day as I flit about town, but is awkward and uncomfortable at work. The last time I wore a dress without tights to work I was uncomfortable all day, not to mention surprised and annoyed by all the hairy eyeballs I encountered from women I passed in the hallway. Clearly they thought I was too naked, too.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/99 "2009-05-21T20:13:41Z")

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Not only do I not wear hose when I wear skirts with my suits… I sometimes even wear (gasp) _open toed shoes!_

My fellow 20-somethings, unite with me against our frumpy-shoed, hose-wearing oppressors! 😃

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**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-pantsuits/497106/100 "2009-05-21T20:18:04Z")

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I hate skirts and almost never wear them. Luckily, the place I work lets me be as much of a hermaphrodite as I want! So, what am I wearing so as to be as confusing as possible? Jjeans, a tee shirt, and sneakers- same as the guys! Hm. No one called me “sir” on the way in… I guess scientists must be extra observant to notice subtle things like secondary sex characteristics!

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