# I pit people that accuse me of being "negative." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2013, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006 "2013-12-23T09:44:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/81 "2013-12-26T15:05:54Z")
> [@Azeotrope](#): > > **mookie** got banned for posting nothing but self-pitying wankfests. Just sayin’. I suspect they’re not socks, but it doesn’t really matter. They have the exact same pathetic outlook and they’re really boring to read about. But sometimes the abuse is amusing. ---
**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/82 "2013-12-26T15:33:54Z")
> [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > If that means “go back to therapy,” then fuck off. I’ve tried therapy countless times and it doesn’t work. > [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Staying on that subject, you’re a complete retard. > [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > So? I bet she’s had an SO before. I’d gladly experience that at the end of my life if that meant finally someone will give a shit about me. > > But see, no one ever will. So since there’s no upside, I’ll continue to be realistic and see “having no ass with brain cancer to boot” as the shitty thing that it is. I’d ask the nurse to strangle me with a pillow every day if I were her. > [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Of course you missed it! Implying otherwise word suggest you had some actual intelligence. > [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Well, women don’t give me the time of day regardless of what I do, so… Jeez Jesse … I wonder why? 😕 Such a pleasant attitude you have, its shocking that attractive girls arent just flocking to boink you right and left. Got any insight into that? Oh right: its your shitty smile (which you never display anyway). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/83 "2013-12-26T15:37:29Z")
You know, Jesse, if you just stopped being a big asshole, you’d probably have a girlfriend in no time. It’s really that simple. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/84 "2013-12-26T15:50:34Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You know, Jesse, if you just stopped being a big asshole, you’d probably have a girlfriend in no time. It’s really that simple. I disagree. If he wasn’t such a big asshole, he’d have no personality at all. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/85 "2013-12-26T16:19:48Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You know, Jesse, if you just stopped being a big asshole, you’d probably have a girlfriend in no time. It’s really that simple. But women only go out with assholes. Everyone knows that. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/86 "2013-12-26T16:25:01Z")
> [@zweisamkeit](#): > > Yeah, I have no idea why women you meet don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who is quite clearly viewing them as an item to tick off the List of Things to Accomplish. > > Things aren’t gonna change for you until you somehow manage to realize how disgustingly self-absorbed and selfish you are. I mean, Jesus Christ, you just read a post about a terminal cancer patient in excruciating pain who will die with no family/loved ones around her … And your response was ‘big deal. I bet she’s had a boy/girlfriend before!’ > > Pretend that you just read that exchange between two strangers instead of you being a part of that exchange. If you can’t see how absolutely, absurdly, _legitimately offensive and narcissistic_ your reply was… Well, I won’t be surprised, but I will roll my eyes in disgust. Roll away. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/87 "2013-12-26T16:26:02Z")
> [@SerafinaPekala](#): > > Jeez Jesse … I wonder why? 😕 > Such a pleasant attitude you have, its shocking that attractive girls arent just flocking to boink you right and left. Got any insight into that? Oh right: its your shitty smile (which you never display anyway). Well, if you looked like a teenager with down syndrome every time you smiled, you wouldn’t do it either. ---
**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/88 "2013-12-26T16:26:08Z")
Something tells me we will be reading about “Jesse Pinkman” one of these days. That much impotent rage and arrogance coupled with abominable self-esteem produces some nasty consequences. And of course he will blame it on someone/something else. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/89 "2013-12-26T16:27:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Something tells me we will be reading about “Jesse Pinkman” one of these days. That much impotent rage and arrogance coupled with abominable self-esteem produces some nasty consequences. And of course he will blame it on someone/something else. Well, at least I’d achieve something for a change… ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/90 "2013-12-26T16:34:24Z")
> [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Well, at least I’d achieve something for a change… Reported. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/91 "2013-12-26T17:27:05Z")
> [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Well, if you looked like a teenager with down syndrome every time you smiled, you wouldn’t do it either. Dude, you remember Chris Burke from the TV show _Life Goes On_? Anyway, he not only _looks_ like he has Down Syndrome, he _actually has it_! And he gets more dates than he can handle. Just sayin. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/92 "2013-12-26T17:57:39Z")
> [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Well, at least I’d achieve something for a change… Worst. Bot. Evar. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/93 "2013-12-26T19:01:52Z")
> [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > Well, at least I’d achieve something for a change… [Moderating] Posts like this are inappropriate in any forum. This is a formal warning. Don’t do this again. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/94 "2013-12-26T19:16:55Z")
> [@Eutychus](#): > > Okay, Jesse … I’m going to give this a shot even though I know that all I say is going got fall on deaf ears and that you’ll find a way to disregard everything I say, but just to say that we tried, here we go. > > I used to be the same way that you are now. On this board. Boo hoo. Nobody loves me. My life sucks. Can’t get laid. Woe is me. Gonna go eat some worms. > > Well, it got to the point that I’m sure nobody wanted to hear the whining anymore. Any whining you do is just self serving. It’s certainly not helping anybody else, and it may make you feel a little better for the moment, but in the long run it’s not helping. Because what I really wanted wasn’t help, but sympathy. I was a sympathy junkie. And it worked for a while. But eventually people’s available store of sympathy that they can give to any one person runs out and they can’t give it to you anymore. And then you can’t get your fix anymore. > > But here’s the deal, and here’s what I learned. > > You cannot expect anybody else to flip a switch on the back of your neck and make things better for you. No body can, and nobody will do it for you, especially for someone who they do not perceive as worthwhile. And this may be harsh, but if you don’t perceive yourself as worthwhile, chances are no one else will either. > > You have to take ownership of your happiness and not depend on someone else to give it to you. And the toughest part of doing this is initially deciding that you want to do it. That you want to break out of the cycle. That you want something better. I don’t see you in that situation yet. I see you as someone in the whining/sympathy cycle and yes, that can be tough to break out of. > > You want to trade stories? I’ve been through things that would have your hair turn phosphorus. Some I’ve shared on the board here, some I have not. But I learned that no matter what life threw at me, the only person who was responsible for how I dealt with it was me. I had to pull myself up, knowing that a crappy attitude was not going to ever make anything better for me, and press on. > > But here’s the main point. Nobody can do that but you. No one. But once you decide to try to turn things around, you’ll find more support for trying to make positive changes in your life, and not whining when maybe they don’t pan out as well as you may have liked, then with just complaining about how crappy your life is. It takes time, yes. It won’t happen overnight. No worthwhile change ever does. But if you honestly decide to make those changes, the changes will come. > > But no one can do this but you. > > _Wishing won’t make it so > Hoping won’t do it > Praying won’t do it > Religion won’t do it > Philosophy won’t do it > The supreme court won’t do it > The president and the congress won’t do it > The UN won’t do it > The h-bomb won’t do it > The sun and the moon won’t do it > And God won’t do it > And I certainly won’t do it > That leaves you > You’ll have to do it._ > > So, go do it. > > (Italicized portion from “Fair Warning” by Todd Rundgren) Euty! Love you, man. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/95 "2013-12-26T19:24:45Z")
There are people on this board (and even in this thread) who have had real problems and had some epic suffering. They got up and got on about the rest of their lives. That’s what you do, because life doesn’t stop just because you ache. **WhyNot** , please give your patient our biggest birthday wishes. Now that you’ve told us about her, it might be her last natal day but she’s got a lot of people who give a damn and wish her the best. I’m one of them. Just a word to the wise here, Jesse … two warnings in less than two months, not cool. Perpetual whiny attitude, also not cool. “Sympathy” is a word in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. You would not be the first person we threw out of here for being perpetually whiny. Don’t let it happen to you; you control your destiny in many things and that’s just one of them. Use carefully your power of choice. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/96 "2013-12-26T19:30:04Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Well, it started in the crapper so there’s no way to go but up! I did not need the image of something coming up out of the crapper. No. I did not. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/97 "2013-12-26T19:43:51Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > “Sympathy” is a word in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. Just _had_ to check, and I can confirm this to be the case, at least for The New Oxford English Dictionary Second Edition. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/98 "2013-12-26T19:44:39Z")
Okay, let’s take your two main topics…[here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=708749) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=709654). For anyone who is able to read through them all without wanting to bash their head in or tear their hair out, I applaud you, but for those who can’t, here is almost an exact sum up of those entire two threads: It’s literally nothing but you complaining and then–NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS or offers to your by way of suggestions or advice–blowing it all off. Every one, every time. Poster A: Suggestion Jesse: That won’t work Poster B: Advice Jesse: Already tried that Poster C: Suggestion and advice Jesse: Sorry, Next! Poster D: Advice and suggestion Jesse: That doesn’t help at all Poster E: All of the above Jesse: Try again, that never helps Poster F: Well maybe this. Jesse: Sorry, I’m too pathetic for that. etc Not to mention, you gave the whole “I haven’t had sex in 3 years” topic and _everyone in it who actually tried to help you and offer good advice_ a big, fat, middle finger with your last post in there. The one you got a well-deserved warning for. You’re such a charming guy, Jesse…I have no idea how women just aren’t throwing themselves at you. It’s a complete mystery. Wait, I know why…it’s because you’re a “realist”. Sure you are. You’re the most fucking _ **negative** _ “realist” I’ve ever seen. Seconded with those who have also called you a whiny poster and an boring asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/99 "2013-12-26T19:49:02Z")
Tiresome provocation aside (his at least), If Jesse lives in America I do feel sorry for him being surrounded by therapy-spouting positivity arseholes. At least they let you be, if you’re a miserable bastard in England. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006/100 "2013-12-26T20:04:16Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > It’s literally nothing but you complaining and then–NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS or offers to your by way of suggestions or advice–blowing it all off. Every one, every time. > > Poster A: Suggestion > Jesse: That won’t work > Poster B: Advice > Jesse: Already tried that > Poster C: Suggestion and advice > Jesse: Sorry, Next! > Poster D: Advice and suggestion > Jesse: That doesn’t help at all > Poster E: All of the above > Jesse: Try again, that never helps > Poster F: Well maybe this. > Jesse: Sorry, I’m too pathetic for that. > > etc To be fair, Opal (RIP) did that for pretty much her entire time here and she’s revered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-that-accuse-me-of-being-negative/677006.md?page=6)