# I pit people who defend jerks.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437 "2010-07-29T10:38:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/21 "2010-07-29T18:33:52Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Unfortunately **zweisamkeit** , your link makes even less sense than the tirade offered in the OP. Not _your_ fault of course, sometimes these things just happen. 😃

A Doper posted that she wanted to get weight loss surgery and for a few pages, many Dopers questioned her reasoning behind it, suggesting alternatives (which she hadn’t tried), and then maybe suggesting she check out help with her psychological weight problem before resorting to life altering physical surgery.

After all was said and done, **Big T** popped in and passive aggressively said he would have given us what was coming to us if we had the audacity to say it to him. Ok, well, he said he’d have been upset, because the posters disagreeing with the OP’s decision were morally indecent- whatever that means.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/22 "2010-07-29T18:37:09Z")

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He certainly seems to have some vicious thoughts about people he thinks aren’t being nice enough, doesn’t he? I mean, [people who aren’t nice enough in a critique email don’t deserve to be called human](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12740156&postcount=64)? What the fuck?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/23 "2010-07-29T18:39:16Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Just please poster, knock it off. It someone is being a jerk, you don’t have to jump on them, but don’t agree with them.

> [@BigT](#):
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> I always call out jerks, But I only call out the jerk that hasn’t been called out yet. And then, only if that person is actually a jerk, and not just someone who’s acting a little weird.

:dubious:

By this logic, no Pit thread should be more than three posts long. Only one person is allowed to tell someone they’re being a jerk, and no one is allowed to take the jerk’s side. Got it.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/24 "2010-07-29T18:41:26Z")

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Thie thing about jerks is that they all have jerkfaces.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/25 "2010-07-29T18:42:35Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> A Doper posted that she wanted to get weight loss surgery and for a few pages, many Dopers questioned her reasoning behind it, suggesting alternatives (which she hadn’t tried), and then maybe suggesting she check out help with her psychological weight problem before resorting to life altering physical surgery.
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> .

Oh THAT thread. I don’t recall most of the people thinking she needed to rethink it being particularly nasty in that thread either, though I may not have hung around it till the very end. Good grief, someone is considering a life threatening surgery and somebody gets bent because some folks think its risky enough to be reconsidered/discussed?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/26 "2010-07-29T18:45:29Z")

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**BigT** , this thread prolly isn’t gonna end well for ya. That said, you don’t usually piss me off, so I’ll be staying out of it.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/27 "2010-07-29T19:29:19Z")

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Of course, once it comes back to him, he freaks out and tells us how he can’t sleep because he gets so mad. (Sorry, I’m not inclined to be all that sympathetic, **BigT**. I have OCD myself – I don’t use it as an excuse to demand special treatment)

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/28 "2010-07-29T19:33:35Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> As for MPSIMS, **Malacandra** will be the first one to tell you that he can dish it out just as well as he can take it.

Sorry, I just realized I conflated **Malacandra** with **Maastricht**. **Maastricht** was the author of that bypass thread. Apologies.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/29 "2010-07-29T20:18:13Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> . . . Actually I just wanted to say cuntwaffle. . .

And I’m glad you did. This is the pit after all. There are standards to maintain.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/30 "2010-07-29T20:31:29Z")

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Jerks need love, too!

Won’t anyone think of the jerks?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/31 "2010-07-29T21:04:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And this isn’t passive aggressive. There’s too many people to name, and I don’t have a specific person in mind for the general message. But the thought that inspired this was a thread where someone called someone with an anxiety disorder a 13 year old girl, and people acting like that was acceptable, or the kick in the pants he needed. Fuck that, and every other post like that.

Hmm, I had the same opinion of that poster before the 13 year old girl comment. Bit, let’s try the sandwich technique here.

**BigT** , your posts are spelled correctly, and your grammar is pretty good.  
However, you are a jerk.  
But we enjoy your jerkishness, so keep posting.  
How was that?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/32 "2010-07-29T21:13:48Z")

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I also thought BigT’s post in the Chessic Sense pitting of the metro employee was bizarre.

> [@I am your better. Do as I say.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/164):
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> Thing is, I’m not sure how making fun of the OP doesn’t make you just as big an asshole as he was. This didn’t happen to you, so you have no reason besides recreational outrage to be upset about it. So you can’t use that as a justification.
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> Do I think saying your someone’s better is stupid? Hell yeah. Do I think it says a lot about the person we are talking about? Of course. But no more than what I already knew about the guy. He’s admitted he feels no compassion for other people.
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> You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place.

But it also made me think of people who yell at you for criticizing racists. You know, don’t be bigoted against bigotry and all that.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/33 "2010-07-29T21:16:05Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> But it also made me think of people who yell at you for criticizing racists. You know, don’t be bigoted against bigotry and all that.

Shit, he does that too. He just gets so _pissed off_ at all the angry people.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/34 "2010-07-29T21:42:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I hate people that do that thing I hate.

“I hate people **who** do that thing I hate.”

Is it correcting your writing? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/35 "2010-07-29T22:10:52Z")

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Actually, according to the Chicago Manual of Style, the correct form is, “I hate people what do those things what I hate, see?”

Incidentally, am I the only one whose Chicago Manual of Style was edited by Al Capone?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/36 "2010-07-29T23:20:08Z")

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Who the fuck is **BigT** and why did I post to this thread – never mind open it.

PS-Nuke those. Not like I give a shit about either.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/37 "2010-07-30T00:45:18Z")

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BigT’s extra-lite-and-fluffy rants remind me of the Doonesbury strip where Mark laments how lame and vanilla protesters had become recently. In the background are meek looking protesters holding up signs like “Peace now, please!” and “End this war, if you don’t mind.”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/38 "2010-07-30T01:05:57Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Incidentally, am I the only one whose Chicago Manual of Style was edited by Al Capone?

You must have picked up the Chicago Manual of Clothing Style by mistake.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/39 "2010-07-30T02:08:40Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Hope I don’t wind up banned, since apparently I’m not that good at the above.

What you need is more meds.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-people-who-defend-jerks/548437/40 "2010-07-30T02:32:19Z")

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What situation triggered this thread? **Maas** ’ thread?

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