# I Pit Police Chief Mark Kessler and his "Constitution Security Force" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 8, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755 "2013-08-08T23:00:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/21 "2013-08-09T04:42:59Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Also suggests it won’t be free, so there’s at least one thing he’s not wrong about. Well, what he says is “FREEDOM ISN’T FREE.” Maybe so, maybe not, but retaining a lawyer only means **justice** isn’t free. Freedom and justice are not the same thing, and sometimes are in conflict. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/22 "2013-08-09T06:47:09Z")
Well, freedom is just another word for ‘nothing left to loose,’ and it’s _nothing_ if it ain’t free. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/23 "2013-08-09T12:26:16Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Kessler is using a lawyer now. At least that suggests it won’t end **violently.** Dick the Butcher may disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/24 "2013-08-09T15:02:43Z")
Am I the only one to see the phrase “freedom isn’t free” as an argument in favor of taxation? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/25 "2013-08-09T16:47:25Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Am I the only one to see the phrase “freedom isn’t free” as an argument in favor of taxation? No, but I think that would be an argument beyond Kessler’s comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/26 "2013-08-09T16:48:29Z")
I wonder how long until he appears on Fox News as a consultant? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/27 "2013-08-09T16:49:48Z")
Not even [the Freepers](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3047539/posts) are entirely comfortable with Kessler; some support him, some think he gives responsible gun owners a bad name. ---
**Author:** ![SweetLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@SweetLucy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetLucy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/28 "2013-08-10T02:39:15Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I wonder how long until he appears on Fox News as a consultant? I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the 2016 Republican nominee for president 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/29 "2013-08-10T08:20:47Z")
Kessler is a moronic, juvenile thug and would be Ernst Roehm emblematic of much is wrong with this country to-day and has no business being a police chief. Hopefully his little toy army breaks up peacefully soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/30 "2013-08-10T12:43:42Z")
> [@SweetLucy](#): > > > [@YogSosoth](#): > > > > I wonder how long until he appears on Fox News as a consultant? > > I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the 2016 Republican nominee for president 😛 Speaking of which, what’s Joltin’ Joe Arpaio been up to lately? Sounds like Kessler has the credentials to be his veep candidate. _Arpaio/Kessler 2016 — gives a whole 'nother meaning to the term ‘Police State’_ ---
**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/31 "2013-08-10T12:58:54Z")
[quote=“OttoDaFe, post:30, topic:665755”] Speaking of which, what’s Joltin’ Joe Arpaio been up to lately? Sounds like Kessler has the credentials to be his veep candidate What’s Joe been up to? Making sure the TV camera’s are never more than a yard away, and neither is an AR-15. [http://now.msn.com/joe-arpaio-arizona-sheriff-says-ar-15-assault-rifles-must-be-carried-by-all-deputies](http://now.msn.com/joe-arpaio-arizona-sheriff-says-ar-15-assault-rifles-must-be-carried-by-all-deputies) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/32 "2013-08-10T19:44:40Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Kessler is a moronic, juvenile thug and would be Ernst Roehm . . . KESSLER: Who you callin’ a **fag?!** :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/33 "2013-08-11T00:19:15Z")
He’s from the wrong state to spout the “Never Again” meme. Pennsylvania was one of the states on the side that won that war. But please, Mr Kessler, don’t let me stop your train wreck. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/34 "2013-08-11T00:20:23Z")
Can we get a debunking on the claim that “three percent” of the colonists even fought in the Revolutionary War? That doesn’t pass the smell test. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/35 "2013-08-11T00:34:34Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :o You all know I’m **not** illiterate, just a sometimes-clumsy typist. Mods, please edit thread title? “Security,” not “Seciuity”. Done. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/36 "2013-08-11T00:48:48Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Can we get a debunking on the claim that “three percent” of the colonists even fought in the Revolutionary War? That doesn’t pass the smell test. Thirteen colonies pop = 2.5 million / 250,000 troops = 10% Wouldn’t count spies, logistics, safe houses, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/37 "2013-08-11T01:44:48Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Speaking of which, what’s Joltin’ Joe Arpaio been up to lately? Sounds like Kessler has the credentials to be his veep candidate. > > _Arpaio/Kessler 2016 — gives a whole 'nother meaning to the term ‘Police State’_ Vote for us or we’ll bust a cap in your ass. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/38 "2013-09-20T04:13:17Z")
[Kessler is so fired.](http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Council-Votes-to-Fire-Foul-Mouthed-Police-Chief-224494661.html)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/39 "2013-09-20T15:13:54Z")
I wonder who will be the first person, company or local government to offer him a new job, tho. I hope that makes the news so we know who, what or where to avoid. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-police-chief-mark-kessler-and-his-constitution-security-force/665755/40 "2013-09-20T15:19:22Z")
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