# I pit Poverty and the current economic crisis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 1, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487 "2009-01-01T18:38:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/21 "2009-01-01T23:08:59Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > If someone is looking for (only) positive affirmation, they shouldn’t post in the Pit. How hard is that for a Charter Member to grasp? Likewise, if someone posts to piss on an OP who’s down on his luck and just wants to rant, he shouldn’t be surprised when those who are commiserating with the OP set upon this idiot and rip him a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/22 "2009-01-01T23:09:39Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Did you read the part where he has to have a friend shuttle him 50 miles back and fourth? > > You’re either illiterate or a troll. > > Ahh OP held a gun to the executive and legislative branch’s head and made the mortgage crises happen. Got it. > > As opposed to your post which makes you like an illiterate moron. You’ve got issues, buddy. At least the OP gets to have at least one guest at his pity party. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/23 "2009-01-01T23:10:58Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Likewise, if someone posts to piss on an OP who’s down on his luck and just wants to rant, he shouldn’t be surprised when those who are commiserating with the OP set upon this idiot and rip him a new one. I’m scared now. ---
**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/24 "2009-01-01T23:11:52Z")
Will your friends in New City carry you for a couple of months? Do you have enough hours in to claim unemployment? Have you applied for financial aid for when you do move to New City? If the answer is yes to number one and two: Try to get your employer to lay you off or quit your job and move to New City. Apply for unemployment. Put in your one to ten waiting weeks (one if laid off, ten if you quit). If you can get financial aid and a student loan (maybe someone in your family can co-sign), you can go to school and live off your aid and loan. If you can come up with some money for a car, let me know and I’ll put my network of mechanic friends on finding you a good deal on reliable transportation. Also, check your PMs. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/25 "2009-01-01T23:13:00Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > I’m scared now. I wasn’t referring to you, dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/26 "2009-01-01T23:13:09Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Likewise, if someone posts to piss on an OP who’s down on his luck and just wants to rant, he shouldn’t be surprised when those who are commiserating with the OP set upon this idiot and rip him a new one. I understand someone wanting to bitch about when life gives them lemons–I don’t have a problem with that. What I don’t understand and do have a problem with is when the OP then shits all over each offered lemonade recipe (which the OP has not done here yet) or chalks all his troubles up to broader issues (see the title) and complains about things that are perfectly normal parts of life sometimes (i.e., “pounding the pavement”). Also at no point have I felt or expressed “surprise” at other people not sharing my feelings in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/27 "2009-01-01T23:16:04Z")
How about working from home? I think some call centers have people that work from home…they just need a high speed internet connection. I have no idea how you would find such work, but that’s how my daughter’s friend earns money. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/28 "2009-01-01T23:17:58Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You’ve got issues, buddy. At least the OP gets to have at least one guest at his pity party. Since you didn’t defend your position that complaining about long distance pavement pounding is “whining” I’ll take this a retraction of your idiotic proposition. Gday. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/29 "2009-01-01T23:20:38Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I understand someone wanting to bitch about when life gives them lemons–I don’t have a problem with that. What I don’t understand and do have a problem with is when the OP then shits all over each offered lemonade recipe (which the OP has not done here yet)… Since he hasn’t do it, why mention it? It’s irrelevant. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > …or chalks all his troubles up to broader issues (see the title)… Good thing he hasn’t done that. However, some of his troubles certainly ARE the result of the current economic situation. Just because you and I aren’t suffering because of it, doesn’t mean others aren’t. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > …and complains about things that are perfectly normal parts of life sometimes (i.e., “pounding the pavement”). You seem to once again overlooked the fact that for the OP, “pounding the pavement” means a round-trip drive of 50 miles, for which he must rely on friends. This isn’t a case of simply having to walk around town looking for “Help Wanted” signs. If _that’s_ what he was complaining about, I’d be right there with you. But, it ain’t. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/30 "2009-01-01T23:26:01Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Since he hasn’t do it, why mention it? It’s irrelevant. Because I mentioned it in my first post to this thread. > [@](#): > > Good thing he hasn’t done that. However, some of his troubles certainly ARE the result of the current economic situation. Just because you and I aren’t suffering because of it, doesn’t mean others aren’t. :rolleyes: Wrong. The title says he pits the current economic situation but the OP is all about himself. > [@](#): > > You seem to once again overlooked the fact that for the OP, “pounding the pavement” means a round-trip drive of 50 miles, for which he must rely on friends. This isn’t a case of simply having to walk around town looking for “Help Wanted” signs. If _that’s_ what he was complaining about, I’d be right there with you. But, it ain’t. Tough shit. If that’s the only way to find the types of jobs he’s looking for in the new city then that’s what he’s got to do. Anywho, you and Tao and the OP enjoy your pity party, I’m sure Acid Lamp will be here shortly. I’ll go off and enjoy the fruits of the good decisions I’ve made in life. I hope those playing the home game take some lessons. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/31 "2009-01-01T23:34:30Z")
> [@Sateryn76](#): > > Bolding mine… > > I’m confused - we’re in the same area - Northwest Indiana, and I just went to both our local papers - The Times and the Post-Tribune. They have plenty of jobs, both unskilled and skilled. > > Here’s [The Times](http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/job-search;_ylc=X3oDMTFhNDJpazlwBF9TAzM5NjUxMTI1MQRwYXJ0bmVyA253aW5kaWFuYQRzcmMDY29uc29sZQ--?partner=nwindiana&kw=&locations=Munster%2C+IN&metro_search=0&industry=) That link takes me to Yahoo, not the Times. > [@](#): > > Here’s the [Post Tribune](http://classifieds.post-trib.com/cv3/gary/search?mainclass=Employment&batch_size=10&searchterm%3Alist=&Search.x=134&Search.y=54) 7 ads total does not make for “plenty” Perhaps it was just a recent print edition, but last week I did indeed see paper editions of the local papers that were _without_ want ads. Perhaps they had ads on their website, but that did me little good while waiting outside for over an hour in the cold without access to computer as I waited _just to get in the door_ of the unemployment office. Perhaps someone had stolen the want ads from every copy of the paper at that newstand. All I know is that I couldn’t find a copy of the paper that had want ads in it. > [@](#): > > Why are you saying there are no jobs around here? I know you’re in a bad situation, but you’re not making any sense. Actually, I stated I _had_ manage to find work of sorts, just not steady and not well paying. ---
**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/32 "2009-01-01T23:35:39Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > I don’t think putting fraudulent information on a job application is such a good idea. Might come back to bite ya in the ass later on. If it’s a legitimate mailing address for you, which it is if your friends agree to accept mail for you there, it’s not fraudulent information. It’s not like a job application asks if you hold title to the house. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/33 "2009-01-01T23:35:51Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > I wasn’t referring to you, dipshit. You quoted my post, dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/34 "2009-01-01T23:37:47Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Tough shit. If that’s the only way to find the types of jobs he’s looking for in the new city then that’s what he’s got to do. No one is saying he doesn’t have to do it. What you’re too stupid to fucking get is it’s a shitty situation to be in and the economy isn’t his fucking fault. ITT: a typical free market idiot worried more about sucking AIG’s cock then reading for comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/35 "2009-01-01T23:39:41Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > :rolleyes: Wrong. The title says he pits the current economic situation but the OP is all about himself. Oh, for fuck’s sake. Of course it’s about himself. He’s pitting the current economy _because_ it’s the primary cause of the rough time he’s in now. How else is he going to explain it without talking about, y’know, his circumstances. :rolleyes: right back atcha. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Tough shit. If that’s the only way to find the types of jobs he’s looking for in the new city then that’s what he’s got to do. No shit, Sherlock. Really? :rolleyes: again. He knows what he has to do, and as far as I can tell, he’s willing to do what he has to do. Doesn’t mean he can’t be pissed off by it. Or _gasp_ tell us he’s pissed off about it. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Anywho, you and Tao and the OP enjoy your pity party, I’m sure Acid Lamp will be here shortly. What makes you think I’m in the same situation? Fact is, I haven’t had it this good in a while. But, making a point of that in a thread started by someone in a world of financial hurt would be crass. I may be a lot of things, but the kind of guy who pees in someone’s cheerios after they tell me his life SUCKS isn’t one of them. Usually. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/36 "2009-01-01T23:41:08Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > You quoted my post, dipshit. No duh. Please learn the difference between “referring to” and “responding to.” kthxbye ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/37 "2009-01-01T23:41:32Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > That link takes me to Yahoo, not the Times. The Times has contracted out their want ads to Yahoo - they are searchable by zip code. The one I linked to is for Munster; Gary has two pages worth. > [@Broomstick](#): > > 7 ads total does not make for “plenty” Fair enough - but those are just the new listings. The Post-Trib has a poor website design, integrated with the Chicago Sun Times. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Perhaps it was just a recent print edition, but last week I did indeed see paper editions of the local papers that were _without_ want ads. Perhaps they had ads on their website, but that did me little good while waiting outside for over an hour in the cold without access to computer as I waited _just to get in the door_ of the unemployment office. Perhaps someone had stolen the want ads from every copy of the paper at that newstand. All I know is that I couldn’t find a copy of the paper that had want ads in it. I do not dispute that the economy is shitty, and I’m not trying to be snarky. But I’m very curious, and since we both know this area… Why can’t you find a job? I know that our local papers are _filled_with job listings. Granted, some of them are “nationwide” scam-kinda listings, but there are still many, many jobs. I am a paralegal, and out of curiosity, I always check the clerical/admin type of jobs. There are tons of them around here, and that’s just in my field. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/38 "2009-01-01T23:43:15Z")
The likes of **Rand Rover** like to think that when people suffer misfortune it’s all the victim’s fault because that magically insulates them from harm as, of course, the **Rand Rover’s** of the world only make good decisions, never mistakes, and factors outside themselves can’t possibly hurt them. :rolleyes: I’m torn between a wish for them to learn the error of their ways and the immorality of wishing harm on another human being. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/39 "2009-01-01T23:47:18Z")
> [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](#): > > If it’s a legitimate mailing address for you, which it is if your friends agree to accept mail for you there, it’s not fraudulent information. It’s not like a job application asks if you hold title to the house. Hey, do what you want, but lying on your job application doesn’t sound like a particularly good strategy to me. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/40 "2009-01-01T23:47:46Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So sorry you have to “pound the pavement,” you poor dear. :rolleyes: > > Your current troubles are a direct result of decisions you’ve made. Hopefully the silver lining here is that you will make better decisions in the future. > > Your post quoted above makes you look like somewhat of an idiot. If you want to bump that up to “complete idiot” (see, e.g., Acid Lamp, Broomstick), then keep replying to this thread to tell everyone why their suggestions for getting you out of this situation won’t work. WTF? > [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > I don’t think putting fraudulent information on a job application is such a good idea. Might come back to bite ya in the ass later on. Yer an idiot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487.md?page=3)