# I Pit Premature Sex and the Importance of Sex (especially in Western culture) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127 "2012-11-15T20:53:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/21 "2012-11-15T22:36:14Z")
Is there another reason outside of this thread, that we’re being condescending and jerkish to the OP? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/22 "2012-11-15T22:38:34Z")
There is nothing wrong or shameful with sex. It is beautiful in a loving relationship. Peace ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/23 "2012-11-15T22:42:09Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Oh, it’s you again. Nevermind. That was my response when I saw this thread - “Are you on THAT again?!? Jesus!” > [@Hamlet](#): > > Is there another reason outside of this thread, that we’re being condescending and jerkish to the OP? Yes. I submit [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=672056) as Exhibit A. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/24 "2012-11-15T22:42:51Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > There is nothing wrong or shameful with sex. It is beautiful in a loving relationship. It is one of the most special and meaningful things that money can buy. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/25 "2012-11-15T22:45:52Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Is there another reason outside of this thread, that we’re being condescending and jerkish to the OP? Yes, pretty much every one of his posts comes off the same way. Either he’s trying to be holier than thou or he’s panicked about getting into MIT by any means imaginable so he can earn big bucks and get instant respect. And while he’s got the “talking” part of conversation down pat, he’s still got a lot of work remaining before he masters the whole “listening” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/26 "2012-11-15T22:48:37Z")
Western culture? Give me a break. You claim to be of Indian descent. So, here’s an exercise for your (claimed) MIT sized brain (as your MIT sized ego seems to have shut off your critical reasoning skills): What was the average (mean or median, it’s not going to make a huge difference) age of marriage for a girl on the Indian subcontinent through the ages? For a boy? For purposes of the exercise, you can exclude from the average any children who did not survive to their 10th birthday. If your answer (for women anyway) is older than 16, you should sterilize yourself to ensure your lack of critical reasoning skills is not transmitted genetically, much less harbor any thoughts of attending any university. Now repeat the exercise across all cultures and eras excluding the first world from the 20th century on. How many child marriages STILL occur on the Indian subcontinent to this day? In how many cultures through history was it considered “normal” NOT to be married and having sex within a few years of a girl’s first period? How many historical artifacts, Gods, etc represent or embody sexual desire? Exclude Western civilization and you’re not going to change the answer much at all. Weak sauce, you pansy. Let your balls drop before you spout off again. Also, stop thinking with your gear and start thinking with your brain. As much as you claim otherwise, you’re clearly pre-occupied with sex and disturbed about your own not so latent desires. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/27 "2012-11-15T23:00:00Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Where do your parents stand on masturbation? Something tells me you’re going to need to fall back on that one for a long time. I think they prefer to sit. > [@Shagnasty](#): > > MIT considers sexual exploration as one of their core values. They are going to be pissed at you when they see this thread. I didn’t even get to the interview stage due to the paucity of the anal insertion footage I provided. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/28 "2012-11-15T23:02:30Z")
ice and exercise tame the beast. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/29 "2012-11-15T23:13:35Z")
The OP is from India, right? It’s interesting how he considers premarital sex to be a Western problem. According to [The Times of India](http://zeenews.india.com/news/newspapers/sex-before-15-girls-pip-boys-%E2%80%93-study-the-times-of-india_605825.html): > [@](#): > > Premarital sex has been found to be common among young men but a higher percentage of women aged 15-24 years have had sex before reaching the age of 15. > [@](#): > > Around 15% of young men and 4% young women interviewed admitted to having pre-marital sex. Shockingly, 24% of the women had premarital sex for the first time before age 15 compared to 9% men. > [@](#): > > According to the report prepared by Population Council, Delhi, and International Institute of Population Sciences, Mumbai, youth in rural areas were also more likely than those in urban areas to have initiated a pre-marital romantic relationship at age 15 (29% compared to 17% among young men, and 46% compared to 31% among young women). > [@](#): > > Around 25% of young men and 21% of young women reporting pre-marital sex had sex with more than one partner. You are naive beyond belief if you think that all young people in India are waiting until marriage to do the deed. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/30 "2012-11-15T23:20:45Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > It’s like sexual compatibility is mostly what people care about these days and it’s so sad. This probably also explains the utterly pathetic divorce rate in america: around 50% (I don’t know the exact number). Seriously, that’s as good as we can do? Wow! So you’re telling me that 1 in 2 relationships FAIL! Read up on statistics and specifically this one; it’s based on a misunderstanding of where the figure comes from. The rate is high, but 50% doesn’t describe it, and 1 in 2 relationships failing is patently false. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/31 "2012-11-15T23:27:07Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Read up on statistics and specifically this one; it’s based on a misunderstanding of where the figure comes from. The rate is high, but 50% doesn’t describe it, and 1 in 2 relationships failing is patently false. He is blatently uninterested in facts. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/32 "2012-11-15T23:28:10Z")
> [@](#): > > As much as you claim otherwise, you’re clearly pre-occupied with sex and disturbed about your own not so latent desires. yep, that’s it. and the one about finding your hand. ---
**Author:** ![BTEzra04](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@BTEzra04](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BTEzra04)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/33 "2012-11-15T23:43:52Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > But what blew my mind was when people thought it was weird that a 16 year old wouldn’t have sex. Seriously, 16? That’s extremely young. I wouldn’t even think about that until my mid-20’s, or more accurately, until marriage! It’s a severe sin in some religions to have sex before marriage (I believe in one of those!) _CRITICAL READ_ Don’t criticize me for being against sex before marriage, that’s a different story, but it’s safe to assume that what I mean is sex before the age of 21 (that should be the lowest sex age because do you really think that college freshmen are mature enough to be having sex?) > > I understand, sex feels good. Don’t argue that and also don’t make assumptions that, “Hey you’re just saying that because you can’t get any sex!” I have parents’ rules and religion to comply with, and even if I didn’t, I would still think a it’s ridiculous idea to be going for sex at such a young age. > > I can’t believe that sexual compatibility causes millions of break-ups. Well then that’s not true love. If sexual incompatibility is enough to set off a relationship, then that wasn’t a relationship in the FIRST PLACE. In my opinion, you need a lot more than sexual compatibility in a relationship, and honestly, it only fits for 5% of the criteria. And come on, there’s always kissing/making out! In fact, I value the kissing/making out part for 10% because you do it much more often than just sex. The rest 85% is personality/behavior and looks. And honestly, if they get a “0” on sex and kissing, they would still have an excellent chance of being with me. Like I said, I’m not sexually demanding. I know it takes A HECK OF A LOT MORE than being “good” at sex (what’s that even supposed to mean; how are you “good” at sex?) Dude, have you experienced any of this stuff? I mean, making out, etc. You’re fourteen. You’re gonna change. I’ve lurked in some of your other threads, and I have to say I’m a little worried that a kid who has just begun high school is spending this much of his energy on a message board. Either that, or you’re trolling. Possibly both. And, yes, I do believe college freshmen, in some cases, are mature enough to have sex. Been there, done that. And, whether or not they have sex is generally no one’s business but their own, unless their parents have to foot the bill for the consequences. They are generally 18 years of age or so. Hell, in this scenario, what makes “21” such a perfect age? I’ve known 21 year-olds who were more immature than some 18 year-olds. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/34 "2012-11-15T23:55:22Z")
OP is hilarious. Reminds me of how dumb I was when I was 14 and admired Jessica Simpson for being all chaste and non-slutty. Live and learn, live and learn… ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/35 "2012-11-16T00:26:24Z")
Git the clean gunny-sack, Maw, he’s a’spergin’ agin. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/36 "2012-11-16T01:08:53Z")
Does anyone else suspect that AU is typing with one hand while he’s posting all this naughty talk? ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/37 "2012-11-16T01:19:56Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > (what’s that even supposed to mean; how are you “good” at sex?) The fact that you’re posing this question should prompt you to do a bit of self reflection, and realize that you lack perspective. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/38 "2012-11-16T01:24:10Z")
> [@apollonia](#): > > You’re fourteen years old. Mmm-hmm. > [@Lanzy](#): > > Wait, are you really 14? Sure. > [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > The OP is from India, right? Riiiiiiiight. > [@Grapefruit](#): > > OP is hilarious. Okay. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/39 "2012-11-16T01:41:18Z")
> [@Missy2U](#): > > He is blatently uninterested in facts. There goes his MIT bid… Helpful hint, OP. MIT is interested in your reasoning ability. It’s sadly lacking in this OP. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127/40 "2012-11-16T01:56:11Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > It is one of the most special and meaningful things that money can buy. Wait, aren’t you the same guy who laments about being a grown man-virgin who never ever has had sex?? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-premature-sex-and-the-importance-of-sex-especially-in-western-culture/641127.md?page=3)