# I Pit Quay Walker of the Green Bay Packers

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934 "2023-01-09T18:48:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/61 "2023-01-10T19:03:21Z")

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If you thought nothing could be funnier than watching that play in real life, check out this [Korean animated version.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhHre38QeZI)

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/62 "2023-01-10T19:03:24Z")

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This reminds me of a “Married with Children” episode where Al mistakenly spiked the ball on the 5 yard line and got pancaked into the ground as his reward. LOL

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/63 "2023-01-10T19:37:45Z")

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That just got weirder and weirder as it went on.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/64 "2023-01-10T20:33:49Z")

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> [@PackerMan2](#):
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> If you are standing over your injured friend

That your teammate just elbowed in the head for what should have been a penalty but was missed.

> [@PackerMan2](#):
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> and someone grabs you from behind in less than a second

The trainer didn’t grab Walker, he nudged him aside as he went to attend the injured player. The trainer was directly in front of Walker when Walker shoved him, in full view, obviously a member of the training staff. How long does it take to nudge someone aside? How can it take longer than a second?

> [@PackerMan2](#):
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> you are going to recognize that person is there to help them?

You mean the trainers that go on the field repeatedly during the game, along with the other trainers who were already attending to the injured player? Right before a second Packer came up and bumped the trainer?

Nah, trying to make it sound like Walker was somehow caught up in the moment doesn’t fly. If he has that little control of his emotions, he’s too unstable to be on a football field.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/65 "2023-01-11T00:11:53Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> > And having a PR-prompted apology isn’t going to hand-wave that away.
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> Basically, if he didn’t apologize, the response would be “this asshole didn’t even apologize” and if he did, the response would be “he only did that for PR reasons.”

That’s because an apology is necessary but not sufficient. Shoving aside medical personal is inexcusable. I mean, WTF?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/66 "2023-01-11T00:19:19Z")

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It looks like Quay isn’t facing suspension.

> **[Packers' Quay Walker likely to avoid suspension after shoving Lions' trainer:...](https://www.foxnews.com/sports/packers-quay-walker-likely-avoid-suspension-shoving-lions-trainer-report)**
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> The NFL is unlikely to suspend Green Bay Packers rookie linebacker Quay Walker after he shoved a Lions trainer during Sunday night's game against Detroit, according to a report.

The only person who gets my respect in this mess is Matt LaFleur. I’ve seen head coaches get upset at referees for ejecting players but no, he was shown on the sideline **immediately** yelling at Walker to “be smart” repeatedly. He also said after the game that his behavior was “[unacceptable](https://www.foxnews.com/sports/packers-matt-lafleur-denounces-quay-walkers-actions-pushes-lions-trainer-unacceptable)”. I expect that even if the NFL doesn’t discipline Walker, LaFleur will.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/67 "2023-01-11T00:34:20Z")

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I will say, at least, that it was a good apology. He didn’t try to blame anyone else, it wasn’t “I’m sorry that I got caught”, he owned up to having screwed up, and said he needed to do better.

Mind you, I haven’t any idea who actually wrote it, and saying he needs to do better doesn’t matter much unless he actually does.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/68 "2023-01-11T00:44:25Z")

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I’m amazed the NFL isn’t suspending him for that. I can’t imagine he’d have gotten away with it if he’d done that to a ref or coach. Why are medical staff less valued?

(I’m less amazed that the comments section of that Fox News article is a cesspool of racism 🤢)

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/69 "2023-01-11T12:13:02Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I’m amazed the NFL isn’t suspending him for that. I can’t imagine he’d have gotten away with it if he’d done that to a ref or coach.

Well, the penalty set up a Lions score and he was ejected which presumably affected the Packers defense as he was a starter. All that contributed to his team losing.

As a MN native, I’m in no way a Packer defender, but since there was actual injury to the trainer, I think the in-game consequences are probably sufficient.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/70 "2023-01-11T12:13:12Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I’m amazed the NFL isn’t suspending him for that.

Remember, the NFL reacted to this from New York and, at the time, didn’t have a whole lot of time to think about it. They may have very well talked to Walker about the incident and his disturbing pattern of behavior on the field some time after the game, and I’d be shocked if the NFL didn’t have him on a short leash when next season starts. I believe any similar incident next season will be met with a suspension.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/71 "2023-01-11T12:20:29Z")

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Just wanted to come in here to say “Aaron Rogers? Fuck that guy.”

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/72 "2023-01-11T12:45:15Z")

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I think you’ve gotten your wish already. LOL

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/73 "2023-01-11T14:48:41Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I’m amazed the NFL isn’t suspending him for that. I can’t imagine he’d have gotten away with it if he’d done that to a ref or coach. Why are medical staff less valued?

He lashed out at a Buffalo coach earlier this year, and was ejected. Was he suspended for that?

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/74 "2023-01-11T15:07:37Z")

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> [@gnarator](#):
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> He lashed out at a Buffalo coach earlier this year, and was ejected. Was he suspended for that

Not sure if your question is rhetorical, but no, he was not suspended. He actually pushed a member of the Bills practice squad who was in street clothes on the sideline.

> Back in Week 8, he was ejected after shoving a Bills practice squad player on the sideline after a play.

> **[Packers' Quay Walker apologizes for shoving Lions trainer during Week 18 loss...](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-quay-walker-apologizes-for-shoving-lions-trainer-during-week-18-loss-to-detroit/)**
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> This is the second time this season Walker has been ejected

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/75 "2023-01-11T15:23:23Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> He actually pushed a member of the Bills practice squad who was in street clothes on the sideline.

Exactly, it wasn’t an active player (so definitely keep away you jackass) but not a coach or trainer as I’ve seen a few people suggest. Not everyone on the sidelines out of uniform is a coach.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/76 "2023-01-11T16:01:30Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> If you thought nothing could be funnier than watching that play in real life, check out this [Korean animated version.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhHre38QeZI)

That was…exceedingly weird.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> “Aaron Rogers? Fuck that guy.”

Packer fan (and owner!) here. I agree.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/77 "2023-01-12T08:49:02Z")

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I found a whole compilation of early celebrations.

It happens more often than I thought!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NPZ7oEac7Uc/maxresdefault.jpg "NFL - Never Celebrate Too Early (Compilation)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZ7oEac7Uc)

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/78 "2023-01-12T12:57:56Z")

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Thanks for the early morning entertainment. 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/79 "2023-01-15T16:17:16Z")

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So the NFL thinks dancing is a worse offense than assaulting medical personnel?

> **[Source: Pack LB Walker fined after 2nd ejection](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35447080/source-packers-rookie-quay-walker-fined-13k-2nd-ejection)**
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> Packers rookie linebacker Quay Walker was fined $13,261 for shoving a member of the Lions' medical staff last week, a source said, which resulted in his second ejection of the season.

> **[Lions RB Jamaal Williams again fined for hip-thrusting touchdown dance](https://www.mlive.com/lions/2023/01/lions-rb-jamaal-williams-again-fined-for-hip-thrusting-touchdown-dance.html?utm_campaign=grandrapidspress_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook)**
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> For comparison’s sake, Williams was fined $18,566, while Packers linebacker Quay Walker was fined $13,261 for shoving one of Detroit’s athletic trainers. Williams was not flagged. Walker was ejected.

Ffs, Williams wasn’t even flagged for his dance, but it deserves an $18,000 fine?

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/80 "2023-01-15T17:16:34Z")

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That’s American culture. Sex is bad, violence is A-OK.

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