# I Pit Quay Walker of the Green Bay Packers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934 "2023-01-09T18:48:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/81 "2023-01-15T17:59:54Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > So the NFL thinks dancing is a worse offense than assaulting medical personnel? > [@TroutMan](#): > > Sex is bad, violence is A-OK. I could be wrong, but I’m guessing the fines are based on a percentage of the player’s salary. Williams makes more than Walker, thus his fine is more. But I agree that it’s silly that fines for goofing off and assaulting a trainer are even on the same scale. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/82 "2023-01-15T20:32:28Z")
No, they’re flat rates. > **[The 2022 NFL Fine Schedule Explained - Boardroom](https://boardroom.tv/2022-nfl-fine-schedule/)** > > The NFL stands to hand out millions in fine money this season from on-field penalties and other conduct. Let's have a look at the 2022 NFL Fine Schedule. Imo, contact with medical staff should be the same as contact with an official. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/83 "2023-01-15T20:42:47Z")
Oops, my bad. Ignorance fought! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/84 "2023-01-15T22:08:09Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Imo, contact with medical staff should be the same as contact with an official. Agreed. The only reason why I see a difference is that players usually have more reason to get mad at officials and so need a bigger consequence to dissuade them. At the same time, you’re not risking a player’s health or even life by interfering with an official. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/85 "2023-01-16T16:02:53Z")
> [@SoToasty](#): > > You guys are paid really good money to play this game. You are supposed to be the best at it, so if your job is to make a first down, or a touchdown, and you actually do one of those, there should be no celebration, thats your effin job. If you are on defense and make a tackle, way to go, but that is what you are supposed to do. As Lombardi said, act like you’ve been there before. Trying to stop excessive/planned celebrations is a lost cause. However, the NFL can and should institute rules to crack down on the following idiocies: - players/coaches signaling first downs and other calls. These displays will now be subject to the Junior Referee rule (kind of like junior modding on the Dope). If you mimic the legitimate signals of the ref, a five-yard penalty will be added to the end of the play. - The Misbehaving Kindergartner Rule will state that pointing and gesturing at the other team’s offense in an effort to generate a false start penalty will result in a five-yard penalty against your own team. Football games would be far more watchable if these rules were placed in effect. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/86 "2023-01-16T16:14:48Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Football games would be far more watchable if these rules were placed in effect. - Football would be far more watchable if it was played by grown men rather than oversized children. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/87 "2023-01-16T16:18:36Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Football games would be far more watchable if these rules were placed in effect. We all know, the one thing football is missing is _more penalties._ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/88 "2023-01-16T16:24:17Z")
Consistent enforcement of rules would lead to fewer violations of them. I’m reminded of my gym teacher in 9th grade, who never called penalties in our basketball games, because “if I did, the game would be nothing but a free-throw shooting competition”. No, idiot, if you called penalties, then the other boys would actually learn how to behave on the court. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/89 "2023-01-16T16:39:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > However, the NFL can and should institute rules to crack down on the following idiocies: > > - players/coaches signaling first downs and other calls. These displays will now be subject to the Junior Referee rule (kind of like junior modding on the Dope). If you mimic the legitimate signals of the ref, a five-yard penalty will be added to the end of the play. > - The Misbehaving Kindergartner Rule will state that pointing and gesturing at the other team’s offense in an effort to generate a false start penalty will result in a five-yard penalty against your own team. Agreed. The first down thing has gotten out of hand. And the pretending to throw a flag when you think there should be a penalty called. I’ll add lining up like you’re going to run a play but your only intention is to hope the defense goes offsides. If you line up to run a play, then run the damn play. If your only hope is the other team making an error, then you suck at this game. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/90 "2023-01-16T16:44:16Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > I understand; however, I will judge the sincerity of his apology in the harsh light of his future behavior. We kinda are, this was the second time he was ejected from the game this season. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/91 "2023-01-16T16:48:54Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Fuck the Packers. Sleazy organization, asshole fans. Whatever else may be said, the above stands out as incredibly far from the reputation of both. Perhaps you have a childishly small ax to grind, or perhaps more likely you cheer for a team that gets curb stomped by the Green and Gold on the reg. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/92 "2023-01-16T16:56:48Z")
Indeed. I’m a Bears fan, and I have to say Green Bay Packers fans are some of the nicest sports fans out there. I mean, how can’t they be? It’s the Upper Midwest, practically Canadian in its politeness. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/93 "2023-01-16T17:06:03Z")
Hey, Bears fan, c’mon up to Green Bay an hour before the game and wander through the parking lot… or even the front yards around Lambeau. About a dozen times, you’ll get offered juicy brats on thick bakery buns, dripping with fried/boiled onions; homemade potato salad and cole slaw; “an’ two-tree-beerse” [/GB accent]. (Might be a real beer, might be a light beer. Sorry, we do lack a certain sophistication in that regard) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/94 "2023-01-16T17:08:13Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > If your only hope is the other team making an error, then you suck at this game. Quite the contrary. The subject team of this thread gets lots of extra five yards and crucial first downs doing this. By the logic expressed in this thread: they are grown men. The teams, the announcers, the fans, for all I know the “hey! Beer man!” knows the offense is going to try it, and yet the defense gets suckered. If they can’t NOT fall for that, maybe they’re being paid too much. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/95 "2023-01-16T17:09:23Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Quite the contrary. The subject team of this thread gets lots of extra five yards and crucial first downs doing this. Yes, they do. And it’s poor sportsmanship. If you need a first down, try to get one. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/96 "2023-01-16T17:12:00Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > If you need a first down, try to get one. But if your QB and offensive line are solid, baiting the defense is part of going for a first down. If the defense doesn’t jump offside, then snap the ball and go for the first down that way. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/97 "2023-01-16T17:14:57Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > If the defense doesn’t jump offside, then snap the ball and go for the first down that way. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not offended by hard counts and waiting until the end of the play clock period to snap it. But if you’ve lined up, be prepared to run a play. (while I’m at it, if there’s 15 seconds before the end of the quarter, either get a play off before time runs out or just head for the side lines now. Don’t line up and watch the clock wind down to zero.) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/98 "2023-01-16T17:18:53Z")
Side note to that: I hate seeing a losing team just take a knee before the end of a half, or worse, a game. I want to see you TRY! Throw a Hail Mary, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/99 "2023-01-16T17:19:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > However, the NFL can and should institute rules to crack down on the following idiocies: > > > > - players/coaches signaling first downs and other calls. These displays will now be subject to the Junior Referee rule (kind of like junior modding on the Dope). If you mimic the legitimate signals of the ref, a five-yard penalty will be added to the end of the play. > > - The Misbehaving Kindergartner Rule will state that pointing and gesturing at the other team’s offense in an effort to generate a false start penalty will result in a five-yard penalty against your own team. > > Agreed. The first down thing has gotten out of hand. And the pretending to throw a flag when you think there should be a penalty called. > > I’ll add lining up like you’re going to run a play but your only intention is to hope the defense goes offsides. If you line up to run a play, then run the damn play. If your only hope is the other team making an error, then you suck at this game. Hard disagree on all of this. Should players also be prohibited from raising their arms when their team scores a TD? Jubilantly pointing forward to signal that they’ve recovered a fumble? These are human beings, and if they’re doing it right they’re 100% emotionally invested in every play. If they’re not obnoxiously taunting the other team (and I actually think that rule is enforced too strictly), let them have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934/100 "2023-01-16T17:19:25Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I want to see you TRY! Agree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-quay-walker-of-the-green-bay-packers/977934.md?page=6)