I pit Randroids

When I use this argument it’s more like
A: “I object to the Obama health care plan”*
Ludovic: Why?
A: Because government spending is wrong!
Ludovic: Oh, you object to all government spending? You must be one of those libertarians who wants to privatize the roads. I’ll give you a five-minute argument as to why privatizing the roads is a bad idea. I have now proven that government spending is not bad in all cases. You now must show me why you oppose the Obama health care plan on its cost-benefit merits, not on some hoary philosophical argument that has never been implemented and scarcely believed in unhypocritically.

*I too have doubts about the individual mandate so I am changing the quote :slight_smile:

No they don’t.

I go shirtless to the opera, thank you very much!

Ditto. And I’m a fricking registered libertarian. (though not remotely a Rand enthusiast).

But the “oh. yeah, everyone has that phase” line is an easy way to dismiss others’ views as juvenile, so it gets used a lot.

We gotta wild man heah, folks. I wanna party with you, pal.

Yes, he started out as a “Rand worshipper,” but at some point (in the '90s?) began to break away from orthodox Objectivism . . . a move that was inevitable for someone in his position. Remember that John Galt was tortured in an attempt to get him to run the economy. Rand never supported a meritocracy; she said that people of great ability should never waste their abilities by working for the government.

There was no such person as John Galt. Nobody was ever tortured to get them to run the economy, nor threatened with such. I am so glad I was unaware of that grandiose piece of bullshit. Too bad brain bleach and neuralizers are also bullshit.

The Second Stone: relax, bub. Everyone knows we’re talking about a work of fiction. Winston Smith was tortured too. And Jack Ryan.

Sherlock Holmes, of course, was real…

You want Randroids? Visit some gun discussion boards. As a general rule, they are lousy with Randroids and “Big L Libertarians.” They are interesting people in that they seemingly value lording ideological purity over each other more than they value the political effectiveness that would actually allow them to put their beliefs into practice.

Hey, but they actually let Greenspan run the Fed. If Greenspan were only fictional, I wouldn’t care. But Randroids take it seriously.

My favorites:

Nietzsche is pietzsche,
but Sartre is smartre.

Whatever doesn’t kill me,
just postpones the inevitable.

I prefer “That which does not kill me hurts like a sonovabitch.”

Rand didn’t know Jack shit about Nietzsche, or anything else for that matter.