# I pit Red Sox Fans. Who the hell BOO's their OWN team!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 25, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044 "2004-10-25T13:37:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/21 "2004-10-25T16:45:17Z")

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A _preventable_ tragedy too, brought on by a bunch of morons.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/22 "2004-10-25T17:03:13Z")

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Why do people keep blaming the fans for that poor woman’s death? The police killed her.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/23 "2004-10-25T17:03:30Z")

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> [@fruitbat](#):
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> Well this is a new tack from Yankees fans. May I remind them that for the first part of the season they were booing Derek fucking Jeter of all people. The hardest playing guy in baseball.

I was wondering if the OP had forgotten the Yankee Stadium boos of Jeter during the regular season (not the post-season, which is more important - the regular season). Granted, he was batting something like .00000001 at the time, but that’s no reason for the auto-booing. ISTR him saying that even his parents were catching shit for his sub-par plate performance.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/24 "2004-10-25T17:06:37Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> Why do people keep blaming the fans for that poor woman’s death? The police killed her.

[Link](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/fallclassic/news/story?id=1908070) for those who hadn’t seen the story.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/25 "2004-10-25T17:11:35Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> Why do people keep blaming the fans for that poor woman’s death? The police killed her.

Please tell me you’re joking.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/26 "2004-10-25T17:36:52Z")

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> [@fruitbat](#):
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> Well this is a new tack from Yankees fans. May I remind them that for the first part of the season they were booing Derek fucking Jeter of all people. The hardest playing guy in baseball. Not to mention the booing of A-Rod and most of the Yankee pitching staff. The Sox fans booed only one person Dale Sveum, who has consistently cost runs by his decisions at third base. If I were there I would not have booed him, but I can understand why they did it.
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> As for exploiting the death of the woman in Boston as a way to slur the city and their fans you can kindly go fuck yourself. It was a tragedy that countless cities have seen repeated after sports victories. I would bet that even New York has seen people die as offshoots of celebrations related to sports victories. It appalls me that anyone would die as a result of something so unimportant as a baseball game, it is not, however, unique to Boston.
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> **Philosphr** , I never had you pegged for such a myopic, petty sports fan.

A weekend with my father-in-law (A-Typical glassy-eyed-frothed-mouth-voracious - Yankee Fan) has brought me to new depths. I apologize, again, my condolences to the woman’s family.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/27 "2004-10-25T17:45:35Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Please tell me you’re joking.

Uh… somebody else shot the pepper spray?

I’m not going to say it was the police who were at fault, it was a tragic accident. Blaming Red Sox fans is disingenuous at best.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/28 "2004-10-25T17:50:45Z")

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> [@Who\_me?](#):
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> Uh… somebody else shot the pepper spray?
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> I’m not going to say it was the police who were at fault, it was a tragic accident. Blaming Red Sox fans is disingenuous at best.

I’m not even blaming the fans, I’m blaming the idiots that necessitated having pepperballs shot at the crowd. They created the situation in which the freak accident occurred.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/29 "2004-10-25T18:18:16Z")

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> [@Phlosphr](#):
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> I pit Red Sox Fans. Who the hell BOO’s their OWN team!

I thought that was a Philadelphia speciality, like cheese steaks.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/30 "2004-10-25T20:29:00Z")

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> [@El Kabong](#):
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> Do they boo Santa Claus, the way Phillies fans famously did a gew years ago?

Yep, just a few years ago in 1968. Why it’s still brought up so frequently, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/31 "2004-10-25T20:40:44Z")

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He said “gew years”, not “few years”. Everyone knows “gew” is an old Amish call to fornicate, occuring in 36 year multiples.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/32 "2004-10-25T20:44:24Z")

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> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#):
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> Yep, just a few years ago in 1968. Why it’s still brought up so frequently, I don’t know.

The people who I hear bring this up the most are usually Philly fans themselves. IME, they revel in it, in a whole “We’re so fuckin’ bad, we booed Santa, don’t fuck with us” way.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/33 "2004-10-25T20:45:59Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Please tell me you’re joking.

Not joking so much as “stating the facts” as seen when one takes off the sour grape-colored glasses.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/34 "2004-10-26T01:13:39Z")

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> [@Who\_me?](#):
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> Uh… somebody else shot the pepper spray?
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> I’m not going to say it was the police who were at fault, it was a tragic accident. Blaming Red Sox fans is disingenuous at best.

The BOSTON POLICE admitted fault. Good enough for me.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/35 "2004-10-26T01:42:54Z")

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> [@Phlosphr](#):
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> look for the guy in the black North Face with the Yankee cap on

Look where? On a milk carton, after you get stomped into constituent atoms?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-red-sox-fans-who-the-hell-boos-their-own-team/271044/36 "2004-10-26T03:09:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> He said “gew years”, not “few years”. Everyone knows “gew” is an old Amish call to fornicate, occuring in 36 year multiples.

Much better response than I likely would have come up with.

> [@](#):
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> Yep, just a few years ago in 1968. Why it’s still brought up so frequently, I don’t know.

Dang. I thought it was much more recent than that, based on, well, based on how bloody often everyone brings it up.

Nevertheless, having been to more than a few, or gew, Phillies games during the 1999-2002 period, and having heard what apparently happened to Billy Wagner earlier this season, I contend that the only way Santa could avoid getting booed again would be if he could keep his fastball consistently above 100 mph.

As to why the story lives on, I guess it’s one of them cultural shorthand things, like the supposed love the French have for old Jerry Lewis movies. Which, come to think of it, is complete bullshit as well.

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