# I pit Rush Limbaugh for being an idiot about birth control **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593 "2012-03-02T22:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/181 "2012-03-03T16:50:14Z")
1. I think he understands perfectly well that nobody really is actually maligning his daughters, but it gives him a good excuse to not admit he’s wrong about Limbaugh. It seems that dittoheads are the most averse of any media personality’s fans to admitting their god is capable of crassness and error. Rush is almost more of a cultleader than he is a talking head. I’ve lost count of the “out of context” apologists I’ve heard for him, who when shown “it is completely totally offensive within context” switch to “Well he’s right”- why can’t they just admit this guy with planks in both eyes is capable of being absolutely totally wrong on an issue? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/182 "2012-03-03T16:58:54Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Just that my hobby is persuading myself that we’re better than the people who behave the way **Scylla** did toward Ms. Fluke. As it happens, I DO know (from my perusal of this board) that his children are just kids. > > Although I had not been aware that he and his family have been blessed with more kid(s). > > A belated “Congratulations!”, **Scylla**. 🙂 > [@Scylla](#): > > Ms. Fluke is over 18. Mrs. Fluke has deliberately made herself a public figure on the topic of sex and birth control and publicized her opinions using herself as an example. That makes her example fair game for the opinions and judgements of others. > > As I stated in my original post, I believe she has put herself in the position to be judged and called such names deliberately and for political effect. > > On the other hand, neither of my children are even teenagers. > > There are rules here against telling people “fuck you,” or “fuck off,” or calling them “cunts,” as sort of the minimal rules of civility that posters must display to each other. > > By that standard it’s hard to understand how describing graphic and offensive sex with another poster’s minor children isn’t well past what anyone could reasonably consider to be appropriate and allowable. > > There should be zero tolerance for this kind of thing. To my understanding it has never occurred before. Those that engaged in it should be banned. You’re entirely welcome, my friend. Don’t mention i-- wait, you didn’t, did you? Never mind; the congratulations stand. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/183 "2012-03-03T17:01:04Z")
Geez, Sampiro, that seems like an awfully slippery slope. If Rush is wrong about this, might there be other areas of error in his canon? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/184 "2012-03-03T17:06:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > It seems that dittoheads are the most averse of any media personality’s fans to admitting their god is capable of crassness and error. Rush is almost more of a cultleader than he is a talking head. I’ve lost count of the “out of context” apologists I’ve heard for him, who when shown “it is completely totally offensive within context” switch to “Well he’s right”- why can’t they just admit this guy with planks in both eyes is capable of being absolutely totally wrong on an issue? That would require extracting the planks from their own eyes, and I doubt there’s a come-along powerful enough to accomplish it. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/185 "2012-03-03T17:11:06Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder, if a company that was owned by a group in favor of zero percent population growth refused to cover childbirth on their policy, or even a less severe example- they had an insurance policy that covered birth _one time_ for each subscriber but that was a lifetime cap (second child, you’re on your own)- would the same people say “Yay! That’s their right!” Just noticed this. I have no doubt that, were a morality exception clause to go into effect, many employers and insurance companies would suddenly have moral objections to many procedures and medications that happen to be very expensive. ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/186 "2012-03-03T17:46:13Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > _Republicans think women should be punished for having sex._ It is a fundamental belief of the party, to the level that it doesn’t make sense for someone to be a Republican if they don’t subscribe to it. There’s no real getting around it at this point. If anyone needs more proof of this, we have our own OMG a black conservative dishing it out right here. And even if Rush got shot by the heart attack gun today, there would always be another freak show conservative to step up and advocate hatred and punishment of women. There are many nasty snarling beasts in that herd, Rush is nothing special. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/187 "2012-03-03T17:55:13Z")
And now Bill O’Reilly [weighs in!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/03/bill-oreilly-sandra-fluke-limbaugh_n_1318249.html) Yet another asshole who didn’t read the testimony and doesn’t have the faintest idea what he’s railing against, but by golly he’s busting at the seams to call some young woman a slut and here’s his big chance! Slut slut slut slut slut! Ahhh, now he feels better about himself. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/188 "2012-03-03T18:02:13Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Then he gets this brazen slut to chum the waters for stupid Republican(s) No need to chum, they leap right into the boat. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/189 "2012-03-03T18:03:40Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > And now Bill O’Reilly [weighs in!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/03/bill-oreilly-sandra-fluke-limbaugh_n_1318249.html) Yet another asshole who didn’t read the testimony and doesn’t have the faintest idea what he’s railing against, but by golly he’s busting at the seams to call some young woman a slut and here’s his big chance! Slut slut slut slut slut! Ahhh, now he feels better about himself. And considering his penchant for falafel and Rush’s viagra laced exploits in the Dominican Republic, you’d figure they’d both be fine with sluts anyways. Maybe to them it’s a compliment. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/190 "2012-03-03T18:36:28Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Fuck him. Fuck his goat-felching parents for having him. Fuck Fox for employing him. Fuck anybody who listens to him. Fuck anybody who looks like him. And fuck his dog for staying with him. > [@Locrian](#): > > Fuck him, that fucking dope-infested, mental-midget misogynist. Fuck his show, fuck his everything. Both of these quotes are perfect responses to Rush, O’Reilly, and any other drooling Neanderthal who uses slut-shaming to silence women for speaking up in support of access to a legal and appropriate medical treatment. Calling women vile names when they speak out on parts of their lives that make people uncomfortable is a long and cherished tradition in the parts of society that believe that women should be barefoot and pregnant, and out of participation in public life. The fact that men in all aspects of our society, in entertainment (if you’re going to continue to insist that Limbaugh is entertainment and not the spiritual leader of the GOP) and politics and general societal life, feel that they have the right to call ordinary women vicious names just for being ordinary indicates a continuing deep hatred of women that runs through our lives like a festering sore. > [@Hooleehootoo](#): > > not one mention of Fluke’s conflation of the medical and non-medical uses of birth control pills ALL use of birth control pills is medical, you moron. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Fuck slutshaming. Just fuck it. This. And this issue has nothing to do with taxes, you fucking troglodytes that say it does. It has to do with not holding women’s medical history hostage to uninvolved persons, men or women. It has to do with allowing women to have the same freedom to pursue medical treatments in consultation with their doctors without having outside people stick their noses in. Y’all seem perfectly fine with decisions to force women to undergo unnecessary medical treatments (in the form of mandated ultrasounds prior to abortions) when it suits you, but scream “government intrusion in private morals!” when THAT suits you. All a part of the ongoing attempts to oppress women for daring to act like human beings. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/191 "2012-03-03T19:02:10Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > I’m not surprised that shit like this has come out of Limbaugh’s mouth and I know he isn’t man enough to apologise so the best I can hope for is a short suspension. I also don’t get why people still listen to him, because he’s just a sad fat pill-popping trash-talking asshole. . He shits out of the wrong end? He’s even more screwed up than I had imagined. My brother thinks he’s just awesome. I have no idea how we emerged from the same parents. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/192 "2012-03-03T19:25:14Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > And now Bill O’Reilly [weighs in!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/03/bill-oreilly-sandra-fluke-limbaugh_n_1318249.html) Yet another asshole who didn’t read the testimony and doesn’t have the faintest idea what he’s railing against, but by golly he’s busting at the seams to call some young woman a slut and here’s his big chance! Slut slut slut slut slut! Ahhh, now he feels better about himself. I love how self-defeating his closing argument is. I quote: “The progressive colossus is demanding payment for Mrs. Fluke so she can go through law school with a healthy social life”. Fuck yeah. And ? You got a thing against healthy social lives, old man ? I mean, clearly you’re unfamiliar with them, but that’s no reason to be hatin’. ETA: gotta say though, I admire the way he deflects the viagra issue. No but see, viagra corrects a medical issue, so it should be covered. But _a contrario_, the pill… I dunno, I give right the fuck up. I’m amazed he doesn’t wear a Guy Fawkes mask on his show, he’s trolling so well. ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/193 "2012-03-03T19:28:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I submit that the struggle against ignorance is founded upon relentless optimism. Relentless and unjustified. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/194 "2012-03-03T19:36:15Z")
Oh, look, that paragon of political courage, Mitt Romney stopped dodging questions about the matter and has weighed in. [Let’s see what he has to say](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/02/romney-silent-to-cnn-on-limbaugh/?hpt=hp_bn3) in regards to Limbaugh’s vile misogyny: > [@](#): > > “I’ll just say this which is it’s not the language I would have used," Romney said. "I’m focusing on the issues I think are significant in the country today and that’s why I’m here talking about jobs and Ohio.” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/195 "2012-03-03T19:47:14Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Just noticed this. I have no doubt that, were a morality exception clause to go into effect, many employers and insurance companies would suddenly have moral objections to many procedures and medications that happen to be very expensive. I wonder what policy you’d get if your employer was a Christiam Scientist. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/196 "2012-03-03T19:52:47Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I wonder what policy you’d get if your employer was a Christiam Scientist. Or a Jehova’s Witness who doesn’t want you to have blood transfusions. Or a Hindu who doesn’t won’t pay for a nutritionist who suggests meat. Or a Scientologist who won’t cover any psychiatric care. Or a New Ager who requires only Chackram-Adjustments. Or a Reiki believer who only allows foot massage. Or a Chiropractor true-believer who only allows back adjustments to treat cancer. Many, if not all religions have utterly stupid beliefs associated with them. They shouldn’t determine the secular choices of non-believers. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/197 "2012-03-03T20:10:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Scylla was the monster that swallowed Greek seamen. You could look it up. Yes, and Scylla was female. I’m surprised you didn’t know that since you’re familiar with the myth. Anyway, I was making a joking reference to _Marathon Man_. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/198 "2012-03-03T20:42:38Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I judged her by her actions. > > I expect others to judge my daughters by their actions, not mine. > Even here. Even you. I expect you to get that. According to _your own_ stupid standards of what constitutes a slut. Your daughters are sluts or soon will be. According to MY standards, your daughters are probably perfectly normal. Assuming they don’t buy in to your sanctimonious bull shit. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/199 "2012-03-03T20:58:06Z")
I’m actually rather pleased, if you can be both horrified and pleased, by this entire kerfuffle. No longer can a disingenuous Republican claim that it isn’t about contraception or that it isn’t about shaming women. Well, of course they can claim it. And of course they will. But I enjoy having evidence. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/200 "2012-03-03T21:25:57Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I’m actually rather pleased, if you can be both horrified and pleased, by this entire kerfuffle. No longer can a disingenuous Republican claim that it isn’t about contraception or that it isn’t about shaming women. > > Well, of course they can claim it. And of course they will. But I enjoy having evidence. Since when has evidence ever compelled a change in belief amongst the group in question? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=11)