# I pit Rush Limbaugh for being an idiot about birth control **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593 "2012-03-02T22:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/201 "2012-03-03T21:38:04Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Yes, and Scylla was female. I’m surprised you didn’t know that since you’re familiar with the myth. > > Anyway, I was making a joking reference to _Marathon Man_. Please be assured that no insult to your dignity was intended, implied, or fathomable. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/202 "2012-03-03T21:46:13Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Since when has evidence ever compelled a change in belief amongst the group in question? \ Hope. Hope never changes. \ ---
**Author:** ![Bloodless\_Turnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@Bloodless\_Turnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bloodless_Turnip)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/203 "2012-03-03T22:57:34Z")
I’m so tired of hearing (some) men tell me that pregnancy (or the avoidance of it) isn’t a healthcare issue. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/204 "2012-03-03T22:59:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Please be assured that no insult to your dignity was intended, implied, or fathomable. Don’t worry, no insult taken. I was just surprised by your answer since I’d have assumed someone familiar with the myth would know Scylla was female. Moreover, based on your age, I’d have assumed you were familiar with\* Marathon Man.\* ---
**Author:** ![Enlightening\_Meditation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecc23a/32.png) [@Enlightening\_Meditation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enlightening_Meditation)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/205 "2012-03-03T23:05:55Z")
Rush’s ‘slut’ ‘prostitute’ ‘video tape’ comments are ridiculous, of course, but his radio show commentary is ridiculous nearly every weekday. It bugs me that the rest of the media is making such a big deal out of this one and giving him the extra attention. Rush relishes in angering ‘the left’ and ‘drive by media’. He’s happier than a pig in shit right now. He likely cheered the election of Obama in '08 since it has provided him with endless punditry fodder. At least he did lose a small sliver of advertizing sponsors this week. Rushie frequently rants about the culture of dependency (i.e. reliance on government, loss of individual responsibility) and ‘cultural rot’ (such as societal acceptance of homosexuals, out of wedlock fornicating and child rearing, abortion, etc.). The concept of gov’t mandated insurance programs issuing birth control pills without co-payments strikes against his beliefs on multiple levels. In Rushbo’s world, abortion should prevented by abstinence and making abortion illegal and equating murder and economic rot is caused by, at least in part, by cultural rot. The rabid ignorance of Rush and others about how birth controls pills are used is alarming but no longer surprising. I listen to Rush on occasion for entertainment to stay abreast of what the mindless dittoheads and others are absorbing. I recall him saying one day that sex should be used for procreation only. Hearing this from a 61 year old married four times with no children was rather laughable. Absurd, on purpose, he is. MahaRushie is the spritual leader of the right wing and a large faction of the GOP voters. Republican politicians even call into his show sometimes to kiss his ring. * * * Personally, I wish employers and jobs would be left out of the loop in health care and insurance. The health care law passed on 2010 left much of the status quo intact, unfortunately. I am somewhat sympathetic to religious-organization-associated-employers (universities, hospitals, etc) who don’t want to loosely play a part in some esoteric moral hazard like birth control. I have a somewhat related question for Dopers though: What is the mechanism of ‘aspirin between the knees’ method that Foster Friess mentioned about gals back in his days? Were the gals holding their knees together while the men stimulated themselves between her thighs without penetration? If so, why aspirin? If no, then what the hell was he talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/206 "2012-03-03T23:23:09Z")
Huh, whodathink it? From: [Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/03/rush-limbaugh-apologizes-to-sandra-fluke_n_1318718.html) > [@Rush Limbaugh](#): > > "For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke. > I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone’s bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level. > > My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices." Rush is still off base, but is actually a better person than Scylla. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/207 "2012-03-03T23:23:14Z")
> [@Enlightening\_Meditation](#): > > I have a somewhat related question for Dopers though: What is the mechanism of ‘aspirin between the knees’ method that Foster Friess mentioned about gals back in his days? Were the gals holding their knees together while the men stimulated themselves between her thighs without penetration? If so, why aspirin? If no, then what the hell was he talking about? Basically, it was “keep your legs closed if you don’t want to get knocked up”. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/208 "2012-03-03T23:23:17Z")
Rush caves to pressure, [apologizes to Sandra Fluke](http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/03/rush-limbaugh-apologizes-to-law-student-sandra-fluke-after-calling-her-a-slut/): > [@](#): > > My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/209 "2012-03-03T23:25:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Rush caves to pressure, [apologizes to Sandra Fluke](http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/03/rush-limbaugh-apologizes-to-law-student-sandra-fluke-after-calling-her-a-slut/): [blows smoke from revolver and spins it into holster] Sorry, pardner. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/210 "2012-03-03T23:27:30Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > [blows smoke from revolver and spins it into holster] Sorry, pardner. I knew I should have pulled the trigger, then edited the quote. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/211 "2012-03-03T23:32:22Z")
That’s not an apology. He’s _so_ sorry for his choice of words, but he continues to misconstrue her testimony and the issue as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/212 "2012-03-03T23:33:03Z")
The only reason the pilonidal cyst apologized is the advertisers are getting nervous… $$$ ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/213 "2012-03-03T23:33:33Z")
I give him no credit, fuck him. He apologized because not doing so was costing him money. He’s a vile human being and it’ll take a hell of a lot more than a forced apology (accompanied by more repeated lies) to mitigate any of that. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/214 "2012-03-03T23:36:14Z")
> [@Flaming Nazi Gasbag](#): > > I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke. Fucking liar. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/215 "2012-03-03T23:42:21Z")
Fuck his pathetic non-apology, and fuck his advertisers if they don’t abandon him, and fuck Clear Channel for continuing to provide him a bully pulpit to spew poison. Fuck his listeners and his followers and his sycophants. Fuck the people who continue to insist that this is an issue of taxes, or personal behavioral choices, or anything other than a continuation of the denial of women’s rights to make their own medical and health care choices. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/216 "2012-03-03T23:44:03Z")
He called her a slut daily for three days in a row. That is not an accident or an unfortunate word choice. That was on purpose. And he is still pretending that “having a medical issue treatable by hormonal therapy” is “a personal sexual recreational activity.” BZZZZZT. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/217 "2012-03-04T00:17:35Z")
While I don’t have any doubts whatever as to the sincerity of Limbaugh’s unpology, it is unusual that he caved to pressure (in a very limited and heavily qualified self exonerating way). I wonder what did it: the sponsors or the right wing critics gaining momentum (there were church groups and an organization called The Christian Left bombarding the station with emails) or just the whole thing. And has he ever backtracked even this much? ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/218 "2012-03-04T01:30:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > While I don’t have any doubts whatever as to the sincerity of Limbaugh’s unpology, it is unusual that he caved to pressure (in a very limited and heavily qualified self exonerating way). I wonder what did it: the sponsors or the right wing critics gaining momentum (there were church groups and an organization called The Christian Left bombarding the station with emails) or just the whole thing. > > And has he ever backtracked even this much? The sponsors, I’m sure. He laps it up gleefully when people get outraged, but he’ll take notice if he’s worried he won’t be able to afford his hookers and oxycontin anymore. Which makes me wonder if somebody at Clear Channel took him by the ear and whispered sweet nothings about cancelling his show. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/219 "2012-03-04T02:26:10Z")
It’s a little late to apologize after ripping into her on two seperate broadcasts. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/220 "2012-03-04T02:56:12Z")
First, he heard from the outraged feminists, but he just laughed. Then he heard from the media, and he scoffed. Then he heard from the President, in a round about way, and he wasn’t impressed. Then he heard from his accountants. And he apologized. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=12)