# I pit Rush Limbaugh for being an idiot about birth control **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593 "2012-03-02T22:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/321 "2012-03-06T01:11:16Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Therefor, the only people who can call Rush Limbaugh wrong are Rush Limbaugh and Kaiser Wilhelm. And they’re none too sure about Wilhelm. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/322 "2012-03-06T01:34:49Z")
It’s dangerous to make this just about Rush Limbaugh and about Scylla’s whorish daughters. Every conservative must confront their own moral decrepitude in supporting the “women’s medical care is only for people who are sluts, which is evil” attitude. Don’t let the focus on one person distract you from the fact that an entire political party and religion in America is built on punishing women for the sin of being women. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/323 "2012-03-06T01:45:27Z")
> [@eulalia](#): > > I believe it because it’s exactly the way some teenage girls behave, with indirect aggression and alliance building by attacking other girls. I remember being treated the same way when I was a teenager for other reasons. Limbaugh just gave them an excuse. Read [Odd Girl Out](http://www.amazon.com/Odd-Girl-Out-Culture-Aggression/dp/0156027348/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330981091&sr=8-2) , it gives a good explanation of what I’m talking about. > [@Lobohan](#): > > Kids today have tremendous access to information through content aggregation websites like reddit or huffpo. > > I certainly don’t find it odd that a typical teen might have passing knowledge of scandals. I don’t doubt that kids may have heard of the scandal. What I doubt is that kids would say, paraphrased, “I’m going to call you a slut because that old guy on the radio said girls who use birth control are slutty!” It reads to me like someone wanting to tie a story back to Rush, to demonstrate that he, and he alone, is responsible for this attack. If the story were, “Mean girls call my daughter a slut,” I would believe it. When it’s “Mean girls quote a drug-addled old fat guy who is utterly unappealing to young people” I get suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/324 "2012-03-06T01:48:01Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > And they’re none too sure about Wilhelm. You could be right. IIRC, the first American company that offered employees health insurance was Kaiser. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/325 "2012-03-06T01:55:12Z")
The state of Missouri is going to honor Limbaugh alongside Mark Twain, Walter Cronkite and Dred Scott! [http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/03/05/438038/limbaugh-bust-missouri-statehouse/?mobile=nc](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/03/05/438038/limbaugh-bust-missouri-statehouse/?mobile=nc) > [@](#): > > Radio host Rush Limbaugh will soon be honored in the Missouri Statehouse with a bust in the Hall of Famous Missourians. Limbaugh, a Missouri native whose show is losing advertisers after he verbally attacked Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke on air, will join the likes of Walter Cronkite and Mark Twain. Leann Hager, a legislative assistant with Missouri Speaker Steven Tilley (R), told the Huffington Post that Tilley had chosen Limbaugh along with Dred Scott, a slave who unsuccessfully sued for his freedom in the 1857 Supreme Court case Dred Scott v. Sandford, and baseball legend Buck O’Neil as inductees for this year. Apparently Speaker Tilley believes that Limbaugh deserves the same level of honor as Dred Scott. You can’t make this shit up. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/326 "2012-03-06T01:59:05Z")
I was going to ask you guys what the over/under was on “liberals have no sense of humor, it was just a joke”, but it’s already out there. Huh. You’d think Family Values would preclude cursing at girls. I wonder if Scylla’s having any second thoughts/remorse about being a dittohead this week? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/327 "2012-03-06T02:40:56Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > …about being a dittohead this week? IIRC, he has strenuously denied that. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/328 "2012-03-06T03:04:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That rips it, I’m boycotting Missouri. Anybody got any idea what they got that I might want? [hijack]An exhibit of Walter Cronkite’s grandfather’s dentist office (among other things) in the Patee House in St. Joseph, and a whole bunch of Mark Twain stuff that is not Tom and Becky related in and around Hannibal (and, of course, a whole bunch that is). A really nice WWI museum in Kansas City, and a very good exhibit on the below-mentioned Dred Scott case in the Old Courthouse in St. Louis. As much as I disliked living in Missouri, I’ve got to admit it’s a pretty good state for historical tourism.[/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/329 "2012-03-06T04:15:59Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > [hijack]…As much as I disliked living in Missouri, I’ve got to admit it’s a pretty good state for historical tourism.[/hijack] Missouri is home for me, so I’m biased. But, I agree that there is a good amount of historical tourism here. And parts of the state are really beautiful. And we do pretty well for ourselves as far as universities go. None of which changes the fact that honoring Limbaugh is embarassing. Idiots. On the positive side, another radio station is [reportedly](http://nepr.net/news/pittsfield-mass-radio-station-drops-rush-limbaugh-after-contraception-controversy) dropping Limbaugh’s show. I don’t know how big a market that station reaches, but, hey, any time a radio station boots Limbaugh an angel gets its wings. If a station in, say, New York or LA drops him, I will be extremely happy. I’m not banking on it. Just hoping. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/330 "2012-03-06T04:35:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > IIRC, he has strenuously denied that. Maybe he has, but the evidence provided by his contributions in this thread suggest otherwise, n’est ce pas? ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/331 "2012-03-06T05:10:14Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Unless they are being fed this by their parents, intentionally or not. If, say, the doctor taking care of the prescriptions says to his wife, “yeah, I couldn’t believe it, one of the girls on the trip is already on the pill. Maybe there is something to what Rush says.”. And the conversation goes from there, with the girls involved… > > Granted a doctor should know better…not to jump to assu options based on someone’s medication as well as not disclosing it. But some people are idiots. If you read the article on the Daily Kos you will find that it supposedly was the evil girls’ mothers who actually listened to Rush, agreed with him and told the evil girls what he said, which they then repeated at school. I can see that happening but am withholding judgement til I see more. In other news as a mother of a daughter and a grand-daughter the post on the Kos made me cry. If it turns out not to be true I will be very angry. If it turns out to be true I will be very angry and very sad for the state of our country. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/332 "2012-03-06T05:37:09Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The state of Missouri is going to honor Limbaugh alongside Mark Twain, Walter Cronkite and Dred Scott! > > [http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/03/05/438038/limbaugh-bust-missouri-statehouse/?mobile=nc](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/03/05/438038/limbaugh-bust-missouri-statehouse/?mobile=nc) > > Apparently Speaker Tilley believes that Limbaugh deserves the same level of honor as Dred Scott. > > You can’t make this shit up. If it’s any help, Claire McCaskill [is trying to block this.](http://politicmo.com/2012/03/05/mccaskill-campaign-rushes-against-limbaugh/) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/333 "2012-03-06T06:25:16Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > AOL dropped sponsorship of Rush today. Lear Capital is giving [wishy washy statements](http://www.flickr.com/photos/75757368@N05/6808482768/) and testing the waters; I think people would have more respect if they’d just say “We’re sticking with him”. > > Patricia Heaton from _Everybody Loves Raymond_, one of the most viciously conservative actors in Hollywood, was a cheerleader for Rush on her Twitter account for several days, even retelling the “aspirin between the knees” joke (I honestly remember that from the '70s- why can’t conservatives get decent comedy material?) and suggesting her “Tweatons” (as she calls her Twitter followers) send Fluke condoms to stock her up (because Fluke is in the Guinness Book of World Records for most sex per hour of any mammal apparently). > > With the backlash and with Rush’s unpology Heaton didn’t apologize. Instead she deleted the tweets, apparently not familiar with the concept of screencaps. Now, she’s [deleted her Twitter account](http://todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/05/10584003-patricia-heaton-leaves-twitter-after-bashing-georgetown-student). [Heaton is back now](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2012/03/patricia-heaton-sandra-fluke-twitter-rush-limbaugh.html). After a few days of siding with Limbaugh, and coincidentally a huge tide turning backlash, she rethought her position: > [@](#): > > Mea culpa Sandra! Wasn’t being respectful 2 u re my tweets as I hope people wd b w/me. Don’t like you being dissed -so sorry and > [@](#): > > I apologized to Ms Fluke last week. I may not agree with her views but I didn’t treat her with respect and I’m sorry. I was wrong. Mea Culpa. So for all you people who bet me $50 that Patricia Heaton doesn’t know how to use Mea Culpa in a sentence, pay up! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/334 "2012-03-06T07:36:25Z")
Why would anyone WANT to look at a bust of Limbaugh anyways? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/335 "2012-03-06T13:07:00Z")
Yes, it’s very impressive yes, but we’re talking about the comments he made. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/336 "2012-03-06T13:53:48Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Kids today have tremendous access to information through content aggregation websites like reddit or huffpo. > > I certainly don’t find it odd that a typical teen might have passing knowledge of scandals. My daughter graduated high school last year. I can safely say that she was not reading reddit or huffpo. Unless she was deleting those sites from the history. > [@Frank](#): > > [hijack]…and a whole bunch of Mark Twain stuff that is not Tom and Becky related in and around Hannibal (and, of course, a whole bunch that is).[/hijack] That and the _AfterM_A_S_H\* location tours! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/337 "2012-03-06T14:12:24Z")
Patricia Heaton is a fucking imbecile. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/338 "2012-03-06T14:20:46Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Patricia Heaton is a fucking imbecile. That is all. And she really uses 7th grade ‘abbrevs’? _ **“Respectful 2 u re my tweets”** _, seriously? And I see her on TV almost every day, as my wife watches reruns _::sigh::_ her character on _Raymond_ is my wife’s role model. (Yes, I _am_ miserable. How _did_ you know?) ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/339 "2012-03-06T14:20:47Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Why would anyone WANT to look at a bust of Limbaugh anyways? While I’m sure Limbaugh has an impressive pair of man-boobs, I’m not sure I’d call them a ‘bust’ per se. (And does this mean the statue of Rush will be topless? Or nude even? [I assume nude would be allowable as his naughty bits would be hidden behind rolls of drooping flab.]) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/340 "2012-03-06T14:24:10Z")
I probably missed this in the thread, but why does Rush and some of the commentators on Fox News think that this student’s birthcontrol was going to be paid for by taxpayers? He said that if we are going to pay for it, we should get to watch tapes of her, what is he talking about? Also, I know this has been pointed out, but there are medical uses for the pill beyond birth control and in fact the student testified about a friend’s medical difficulties because the pill was covered by her plan. She was specifically talking about an instance where the pill was medically mandated for a use other than birth control. So was Rush just ignoring inconvenient facts, or is he really that ignorant? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=18)