# I pit Rush Limbaugh for being an idiot about birth control **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593 "2012-03-02T22:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/481 "2012-03-19T12:47:16Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I judged her by her actions. > > I expect others to judge my daughters by their actions, not mine. > Even here. Even you. I expect you to get that. If you are Christian you are not supposed to Judge! Remember Jesus ddin’t call the prostitute names,but told the crowd that whoever was with out sin should cast the first stone. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/482 "2012-03-19T13:00:32Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Ms. Fluke is over 18. Mrs. Fluke has deliberately made herself a public figure on the topic of sex and birth control and publicized her opinions using herself as an example. That makes her example fair game for the opinions and judgements of others. > > As I stated in my original post, I believe she has put herself in the position to be judged and called such names deliberately and for political effect. > > On the other hand, neither of my children are even teenagers. > > There are rules here against telling people “fuck you,” or “fuck off,” or calling them “cunts,” as sort of the minimal rules of civility that posters must display to each other. > > By that standard it’s hard to understand how describing graphic and offensive sex with another poster’s minor children isn’t well past what anyone could reasonably consider to be appropriate and allowable. > > There should be zero tolerance for this kind of thing. To my understanding it has never occurred before. Those that engaged in it should be banned. No One knows what their children will do once they are able to have sex, yours may one day be having sex and you won’t know about it. One need look at Sarah Pailin’s daughter and see that no matter what a parent teaches their child, mother nature can upset the most strongest of parents teachings! ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/483 "2012-03-19T13:06:32Z")
> [@monavis](#): > > If you are Christian you are not supposed to Judge! Remember Jesus ddin’t call the prostitute names,but told the crowd that whoever was with out sin should cast the first stone. And that’s when **Scylla** hurled that mother. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/484 "2012-03-19T15:11:13Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > And that’s when **Scylla** hurled that mother. No, actually it was Mary that had a great arm and nailed her. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/485 "2012-03-19T15:20:46Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > This place really has turned into the left-wing moron society. Fortunately, you came along to balance the moron equation right out. Seriously, what happened to you? You used to post thoughtful arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/486 "2012-03-19T17:42:21Z")
Every time I read **Scylla** ’s post I get angrier and angrier. “Brazen slut” indeed. > [@andros](#): > > He likes Elton John. Therefore he is a misunderstood and unfairly maligned person. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. He’s a Steelers fan. That’s about all I’ve got. (Actually, it makes ME ashamed to count him as a fellow Steelers fan) > [@Irishman](#): > > Doesn’t it have the disadvantage of limiting you from having sex at certain times? Or at least the sexual acts you can do at those times? It does have the advantage of helping couples who are trying to conceive as well, because then you can tell when you’re most fertile. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/487 "2012-03-19T19:13:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Fortunately, you came along to balance the moron equation right out. Seriously, what happened to you? You used to post thoughtful arguments. When? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/488 "2012-03-19T19:58:34Z")
Came out strong in this thread, calling out the ‘left-wing morons’, trying to make clear to us what was so apparent to him. Got his ass handed to him, and even Rush abandoned the position Scylla had staked out. Scylla hasn’t posted since, I don’t think, although he seems to have lurked for a bit. If I were he, I’d be reflecting pretty seriously about now…it seemed so clear, and yet he was so clearly so very wrong… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/489 "2012-03-19T20:04:15Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Gives a whole new meaning to “Don’t let the sun go down on me,” donit? Well, it does cast doubt on the spelling of one of those words… ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/490 "2012-03-20T01:43:38Z")
I’m quoting this because it’s a classic and deserves high Google scores. > [@Scylla](#): > > This place really has turned into the left-wing moron society. > > … > As 2012 rolls along Obama, like any good Democrat, knows he needs to court one of his biggest bases, stupid, easily manipulated women. > > So what he does make up this issue that “Hey, Catholic universities should have to offer birth control” which he knows is unconstitutional, but it’s the gesture that counts, and if they can’t do it, then insurance companies can, right? > > Then he gets this brazen slut to chum the waters for stupid Republican by suggesting we should pay for her birth control (when you pay for my beer I’ll consider it.) > > This is so fucking transparent, only a left wing idiot or a stupid republican could take it at face value. The whole point is to get a Republican to say that this is not a good idea on so many different levels, or openly denounce her and then we can trot out the old > > REPUBLICANS HATE WOMEN meme (which we need to do every election year.) > > Now that a couple of people said this was a bad idea and Rush called the brazen slut, a “slut,” Obama can call her up and offer her his sympathies and show he cares about women’s rights , and thereby secure the vote of stupid and easily manipulated women. > What bothers me in this whole manufactured bullshit is that they didn’t even try harder to make it less obvious what they were doing. > > I don’t who the dumbest morons are > Is it the stupid easily manipulated women for whom this is targeted, who seem to enjoy the passive aggressive manipulation and are drawn to it the way a hooker is drawn to the abusive charisma of her pimp? > > Is it the stupid Republicans who actually rose to the debate to say that this was a bad idea somehow not sensing the trap? > Or is it you people… who think this is real?.. Here, **Scylla** has taken the “Other side does it too” meme to fantastic depths. Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/491 "2012-03-20T01:47:20Z")
Holy puke! Could Charybdis possibly be any worse? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/492 "2012-03-22T23:40:05Z")
FYI, I did receive an email response from Steve Lundberg. He explained that he deleted my comment on his blog because it was off topic, because I brought up the comparison to vision or dental coverage, and the topic was about government mandating coverage, not the validity of coverage for contraceptives. I replied back about this statement: > [@](#): > > I expect there are respectable arguments for subsidizing contraception (though I am skeptical that there are arguments sufficiently respectable to win me over), but Ms. Fluke made no such argument. All she said, in effect, was that she and others want contraception and they don’t want to pay for it. In no way does that statement complain about government mandates of coverage, it is a condemnation of subsidizing contraceptives. So my comparison to vision or dental coverage is valid - they have the same level of subsidation if they are covered under the plan. I also pointed out that his defense of Rush’s remarks was suspect, because Rush’s remarks did not point out the fallacy of government mandate of coverage, but focused on hateful inaccurate accusations about the personal choices of Fluke and a general hateful attitude toward any woman wishing to control her reproduction. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/493 "2012-04-25T07:28:04Z")
…Since Rush is at it again: > **[LISTEN: Rush Limbaugh Attacks Sandra Fluke AGAIN](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-sandra-fluke-again_n_1449935)** > > LISTEN: Rush Limbaugh Attacks Sandra Fluke AGAIN It was such a successful thread I thought I’d bump it instead of starting a new one. Rush is against something Fluke is for, or for something Fluke is against. Let’s see - oh, here it is, Rush is apparently in favor of raising the rates of student loans, and accuses Fluke of ‘coordinating’ her comments about this with the Pres. His evidence of coordination is…weak. But if proved true, that would be a major point! Never mind that Franken did a whole bit in “A big Fat idiot” about the RNC faxing Rush his talking points every morning… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/494 "2012-04-25T13:32:53Z")
He’s also attempting to sweep the evidence of his scummy behavior down the memory hole via [frivolous copyright complaints](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/limbaugh-copies-michael-savages-bogus-copyright-theory). (This is an example of why the proper penalty for filing frivolous copyright complaints is to immediately forfeit the frivolously complained about material to the public domain.) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/495 "2012-04-25T23:16:14Z")
😕 So on the one hand, Rush is attacking Sandra Fluke again, while on the other hand, he’s trying to intimidate people into not talking about his previous unpopular attacks on Sandra Fluke? What the hell is he thinking? If he wants people to forget about the sad little boner he clearly has for Sandra Fluke, then he should simply shut up about her. If he thinks for some reason that his attacks on Fluke are a good PR move, then he should stop trying to make other people shut up about them. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/496 "2012-04-26T00:17:43Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 So on the one hand, Rush is attacking Sandra Fluke again, while on the other hand, he’s trying to intimidate people into not talking about his previous unpopular attacks on Sandra Fluke? > > What the hell is he thinking? If he wants people to forget about the sad little boner he clearly has for Sandra Fluke, then he should simply shut up about her. If he thinks for some reason that his attacks on Fluke are a good PR move, then he should stop trying to make other people shut up about them. And you expect logical coherence from Limbaugh why, exactly? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/497 "2012-04-26T14:17:13Z")
He’s overdue? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/498 "2012-04-26T15:57:03Z")
What’s the problem with Fluke coordinating her comments with the White House? I mean, if that’s what she’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/499 "2012-04-26T15:59:31Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > What’s the problem with Fluke coordinating her comments with the White House? I mean, if that’s what she’s doing. Because…uh…Obama! That’s why. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593/500 "2012-04-26T16:35:26Z")
That’s one of the big advantages of the hive mind: coordination is unnecessary! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-rush-limbaugh-for-being-an-idiot-about-birth-control/614593.md?page=26)