# I pit Sampiro

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 1, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546 "2009-07-01T02:50:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/61 "2009-07-01T18:49:38Z")

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> [@Grossbottom](#):
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> This unit does not understand. Please explain to me this state of existence referred to as “hilarious”. Thank you human.

Does not compute.

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/62 "2009-07-01T18:56:20Z")

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I am the blackest robot for miles around. I too must condemn this “ **Sampiro** ” for his attempt to buy some Nigaz.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/63 "2009-07-01T19:03:37Z")

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The comedy going on in that thread is about as clever as fart jokes, but I do believe the OP here is in fact being a whiney little bitch.

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**Author:** ![Scruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Scruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruff)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/64 "2009-07-01T21:04:42Z")

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[QUOTE=From the OP]

My presumption is that it all seems like innocent fun. But you know, it ain’t.  
[/QUOTE]

I am really fucking sick of this assholier-than-thou passive aggressive new-age pseudo sensitivity.

The implication being that, by poking fun at a really unfortunate company name, you are revealing hidden depths of depravity or bigotry. And worse (scary music) **you** might not realize that you are a drooling, sheet-wearing, cross-burning white supremacist, but **I** do.

Same argument is used to the point of fucking annoyance in various discussions of:

- Israeli politics (you might not realize you are anti-semetic…)
- The war on Terror (did you know you are an anti-American surrender monkey?)
- Opal (did you know your fucking list had three entries?)  
and others which I would mention were I not reading this in a meeting and trying to look busy.

I know I have a twisted sense of humor, and tend to find things funny that make common mortals whimper. That’s fine.

But the common habit of ascribing base motives to anyone who disagrees with you (and further, who might be dumb enough not to have the benefit of your insight as to what motivates their position) makes me mad.

You know, you’re jsut doing that because you are an idiot, right?

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/65 "2009-07-01T21:08:22Z")

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> [@threemae](#):
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> I’ll take Latin phrases misused in an attempt to sound smart for 1000, Alex.

_Mea culpa_.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/66 "2009-07-01T21:15:34Z")

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Thank god. I thought I was really turning into a racist for a minute there.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/67 "2009-07-01T22:06:10Z")

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So where the hell is Sampiro? I’m only reading this thread because I’m waiting for some epic smackage.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/68 "2009-07-01T22:15:43Z")

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I don’t think that **Sampiro** is going to find it to be worth his time and effort.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/69 "2009-07-01T22:31:38Z")

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Gigantic eye roll at the OP.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/70 "2009-07-01T23:14:30Z")

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> [@Notassmartasithought](#):
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> My presumption is that it all seems like innocent fun. But you know, it ain’t.

I don’t think Nigaz even care about his thread.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/71 "2009-07-02T00:17:38Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> Or, we’re not American and therefore, while we know it’s an offensive term, the extreme nature of the offensiveness that you feel is almost completely lost on us. I speak only for myself.

I’m American and black and I jumped right in there.

Lighten up, people.

Signed,

American Negro\*

- **OP** , I can call myself that, my homeboys can call me that, but you can’t.\*\*

\*\* That’s a joke too.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/72 "2009-07-02T00:19:31Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> If they’re so damn offended by the word, maybe _they_ should stop using it themselves. That would be a start.

I agree that someone who is both offended by the very word when used by others and uses it themselves probably needs to get their head straight, if such someone’s exist.

But my experience (which comes from being teased as a child through having a last name which can be mocked) is that there is no better way to make hurtful people less interested in attempting to mock you using a particular word than to use it openly about yourself and be completely unoffended by it. It takes all the fun out of it for them.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/73 "2009-07-02T00:48:33Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> So where the hell is Sampiro? I’m only reading this thread because I’m waiting for some epic smackage.

Yeah, this Damn Yankee[sup]1[/sup] is waiting to be entertained!

They say that if you are going to stab the king, don’t wound him - kill him! I’ll add don’t throw tissue paper at him. :rolleyes:

The OP is supposed to be a pitting of **Sampiro**?!?

A proper **Sampiro** pitting should be more florid than the entire collection of [Angiosperms](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnoliophyta), more complex than [Hyperbolic quaternions](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_quaternion), more gothic than the [Thervingi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thervingi), and funnier than Billy Wilder directing Mel Brooks’ script of The Marx Brothers’ “Carry Grant”, with Charlie Chaplin.

And someone needs to stop Grandma before she takes up professional wrestling again.

Sure, the thread in question was of merely finite amusement (Well, I thought it was funny), but really, one must play up to the level of one’s competition.

Let’s raise the bar here! For God’s sake, Jon, stand up!

[sup]1[/sup] As a southern friend told me when I first moved to North Carolina, a Yankee is someone from the North who comes to the South, stays a while, maybe spends some money, and leaves. A Damn Yankee \<maxiumum jaw-clenging derision\> _stays_ \</maxiumum jaw-clenging derision\>! 😃

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/74 "2009-07-02T00:49:29Z")

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How the hell did I get pitted and a ‘name in the title’ thread and not even notice til I was p.m.d? Damn. Must do more vanity searches.

In no particular order:

> [@](#):
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> To me it seemed that posters were relishing the opportunity a little bit too much. My presumption is that it all seems like innocent fun.

To me it seemed that for one moment the world came together as one and violence and differences were put aside as we stopped grieving for Farrah and Michael and Ed McMahon and Karl Malden and Billy Mays who are all playing Red Rover in the sky and we held hands and joined together to mock a Russo-Nigerian gas company’s unfortunate choice of name and learned about life. Probably not true, but no less true than the OP I think.

[QUOTE=NotassmartasIthought]  
But you know, it ain’t  
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Who is ‘you’ in the ‘you know’ sense? If it’s a reference to me, and there’s no evidence it isn’t, then to me it am and since to me it am then to say ‘you know, it ain’t’ is thus provably untrue and short circuts the OP.

My grandfather served under General Patton in World War II and you know he did that so I would have this freedom and what happened on that stage was…

Sorry, wrong speech. My grandfather was in fact in World War I. Until his arches fell, then he just built coffins. But the point is, lots of people died in World War I and II, so if you pit me it seems to me that YOU HATE AMERICA!

[QUOTE=Frank]  
I tend to agree with you, which is why I didn’t more than about ten posts into it.  
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I tend to get bloated when I eat brisket, but then you weren’t talking to me (since here the “you” is clearly directed). Out of curiosity, were the first 10 posts not give away its diabolical intent? Rather like saying “I object to porn on many levels, so I stopped watching this movie after the second blow job”.

Once at a poorly attended Halloween carnival I remember I won a ticket for a hayride. It was a Monday night and there was rain and I ended up being the only person on the wagon. I wonder if jumping on a bandwagon nobody else boards is similar.

[QUOTE=Ogre]  
I’d like to state for the record that I saw this recreational outrage coming from 2.3 parsecs away.  
[/QUOTE]

Was it while you were on the Kessel Run?

I considered it, then disregarded it. Must admit to some disappointment it took as long as it did to come at all.

[QUOTE=kidchameleon]  
“Come on you homosexual demon!”  
[/QUOTE]

Would I had a drachma for everytime I said that (though the transcript would be spelled a bit differently and have a comma).

[QUOTE=Bup]  
Here ya go.  
[/QUOTE]

Thanks, but it’s not that simple. I have to have olive oil poured over my head. (It’s in my contract.)

Well, in interest of time, just a few general rather than specific responses:  
No offense was intended to anyone save perhaps people involved in naming Russo-Nigerian gas companies that wish to compete in a global market and I think that’s fairly obvious. (To borrow a line from one of my best friends, “I’m not a racist, but if it makes you feel better please know that I _am_ extremely prejudiced”.) The only post I thought used the term offensively was KRC in post 27, but even this I don’t think was intended, just a misfire or misreading of intent. (Why there’s such a complete lack of reading comprehension with Nigaz is concerned is another thread.)

As I think I’ve proven many times, if the subject happened be a data storage company founded by Frederick Albert Guggehheim’s and called FAG Bytes, I promise I’d have not been offended and more likely been a participant.  
To those who were recreationally offended by it, please accept my lukewarm insincere apology. (And for extra points as I say this my humiliated imaginary wife is standing behind me nodding and smiling with a tear in her eye.)

To those who were sincerely offended who are white, please refer to the above, preferably from your handheld while enroute to get a life.

To anybody who is black and is sincerely offended, my sincere apologies.

To you.

I’m not calling Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

It’s not because they’re black, but because they’re Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/75 "2009-07-02T01:11:56Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> (To borrow a line from one of my best friends, “I’m not a racist, but if it makes you feel better please know that I _am_ extremely prejudiced”.)

It occurred I should perhaps elaborate upon this before it’s misconstrued:

I’m not a racist, but if it makes you feel better please know that I _am_ extremely prejudiced _against many people on the individual basis usually if not always for circumstances that are within their control to change and rarely if not never for circumstances of birth, genetics, or other that are beyond their control._.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/76 "2009-07-02T01:21:59Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Out of curiosity, were the first 10 posts not give away its diabolical intent? Rather like saying “I object to porn on many levels, so I stopped watching this movie after the second blow job”.

I stopped reading the thread when it became clear that I wasn’t going to enjoy reading it.

> [@](#):
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> I wonder if jumping on a bandwagon nobody else boards is similar.

Oh yeah, bandwagon jumper from way back, that’s me.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/77 "2009-07-02T01:23:37Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> The first rule is don’t bother checking a dictionary. Seriously - ask a native speaker.

Oh, how I wish organizations in South Korea would do just that! A fairly recent snack offering is [Rice Tard](http://painstaking.net/?p=552).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/78 "2009-07-02T01:25:52Z")

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> [@Scissorjack](#):
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> No, it’s a good point: some of us are still baffled to the extent at which “cunt” is appaently regarded here as the Deplorable Word, the _sine qua non_ of crudity.

Over here, the worst of the “fighting words” is “Shut up!” I still can’t fathom why that is.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/79 "2009-07-02T01:30:15Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Over here, the worst of the “fighting words” is “Shut up!” I still can’t fathom why that is.

I’m happy to explain it, though I’ve never been overseas, as I’ve seen that usage hereabouts too. “Shut up” in some contexts is shorthand for “shut up or I’ll shut you up.” It’s the last stage before a punch is thrown.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/80 "2009-07-02T01:32:29Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> It occurred I should perhaps elaborate upon this before it’s misconstrued:
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> I’m not a racist, but if it makes you feel better please know that I _am_ extremely prejudiced _against many people on the individual basis usually if not always for circumstances that are within their control to change and rarely if not never for circumstances of birth, genetics, or other that are beyond their control._.

By that definition you are not prejudiced; you make too many allowances, and require too many informed judgments of yourself, before you are willing to dislike someone. You are not,in other words, _prejudgiing_. What you described is _bias_.

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