# I pit Sampiro **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546 "2009-07-01T02:50:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Tammi\_Terrell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Tammi\_Terrell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tammi_Terrell)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/101 "2009-07-03T17:23:57Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Damn, I hate how Snopes won’t let you select text to copy and paste. What the hell are they worried about. I would have thought they’d be all in favor of Fair Use, they certainly take advantage of it enough themselves. I can’t speak for the Mikkelsons, but I believe they’ve been frustrated by seeing whole articles (and not just excerpts) from their site appearing on other sites, often without attribution (and obviously without permission). The Mikkelsons frequently update their articles with corrections, new information, new variants, and new sightings; the texts of those urban legends reference pages that are copied and pasted elsewhere don’t ever get such revisions. I do suspect that snopes and Barbara are in full favor of fair use (with proper attribution) of portions of their articles; it’s just that the wholesale copying and reproduction of these articles elsewhere prevents the Mikkelsons from controlling the presentation and reliability of their research. I agree that it’s an annoyance for those of us who’d just like to make use of a bit of text here and there for purposes of discussion, etc., but in the end I do understand why they’ve resorted to making copying difficult. – Tammi Terrell ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/102 "2009-07-03T20:09:11Z")
> [@Tammi\_Terrell](#): > > I can’t speak for the Mikkelsons, but I believe they’ve been frustrated by seeing whole articles (and not just excerpts) from their site appearing on other sites, often without attribution (and obviously without permission). The Mikkelsons frequently update their articles with corrections, new information, new variants, and new sightings; the texts of those urban legends reference pages that are copied and pasted elsewhere don’t ever get such revisions. I do suspect that snopes and Barbara are in full favor of fair use (with proper attribution) of portions of their articles; it’s just that the wholesale copying and reproduction of these articles elsewhere prevents the Mikkelsons from controlling the presentation and reliability of their research. I agree that it’s an annoyance for those of us who’d just like to make use of a bit of text here and there for purposes of discussion, etc., but in the end I do understand why they’ve resorted to making copying difficult. > > – Tammi Terrell Hmm. Tammi Terrell = Barbara Mikkelson? ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/103 "2009-07-03T20:32:21Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Screw that. Minorities don’t get to tell the rest of us what we can and can’t say about them. And even if they did, then the majority should get to tell them what they can or can’t say. We already tiptoe far too much around the sensitive little feelings of minorities (or rather, hypersensitive subgroups within minorities who look for excuses to be offended). > > What can or can’t be said in public in a society is an important indicator of who holds power in that society. GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING GENERIC MINORITIES!!! GWAAARRRRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! Personally, I say the real problem are the majorities. Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/104 "2009-07-03T23:12:51Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I think I figured it out. The OP’s and Frank’s version of “how to be a good white person vis-a-vis black persons” includes the idea that a white person should never say anything that could be construed as racist, even by the most sensitive black person who’s just itching for a fight. > > I say fuck that. I’m not a racist, and I’m secure enough in my own concept of myself as not a racist that I can make jokes that play with racial issues without worrying about some idiot misconstruing it and thinking I’m a racist. It’s the idiot’s problem, not mine. Even worse are those getting offended on other people’s behalf (looking at you OP and Frank). > > Finally, I know a certain gas company that would fully support the ideas expressed in this post–where my Nigaz at? Exactly my thoughts. I found that thread to be absolutely hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/105 "2009-07-04T04:51:46Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Screw that. Minorities don’t get to tell the rest of us what we can and can’t say about them. And even if they did, then the majority should get to tell them what they can or can’t say. We already tiptoe far too much around the sensitive little feelings of minorities (or rather, hypersensitive subgroups within minorities who look for excuses to be offended). > > What can or can’t be said in public in a society is an important indicator of who holds power in that society. Why don’t you just come out and say that you hate darkies? At least that would be an honest statement rather than this mealy-mouthed “minorities” “sensitive little feelings” pish you spew here. Be honest, you are a racist - embrace your racism - let it all hang out. > [@](#): > > What can or can’t be said in public in a society is an important indicator of who holds power in that society. Go on then, be brave, say what you really feel! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546/106 "2009-07-04T05:05:00Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Damn, I hate how Snopes won’t let you select text to copy and paste. What the hell are they worried about. I would have thought they’d be all in favor of Fair Use, they certainly take advantage of it enough themselves. Disable Javascript in your browser and you can C&P their stuff pretty well. Don’t disable anything and you still have it all locally in your browser, obviously, and can disentangle the content from the source. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sampiro/501546.md?page=5)