# I pit scum that like useing 2 eights(psst your code has been compromised) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161 "2004-03-14T00:40:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/121 "2004-03-15T05:44:40Z")
> [@gluteus maximus](#): > > I was talking to **htns** (How do you pronounce that? Seems like a rather _tinny_ word.)… Probably **H** itler, **t** he **N** ational **S** ocialist. Another closet Nazi. **askeptic** was right – they’re everywhere. Hell, my last name is German. And we _all_ know what that means. Note: the above is a joke. I’m certain that **htns** is a perfectly fine person, his slightly odd obsession with the Dvorak keyboard notwithstanding. And my last name isn’t really German. ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/122 "2004-03-15T13:28:57Z")
> [@Bambi Hassenpfeffer](#): > > And my last name isn’t really German.[/size] But Hasenpfeffer is a perfectly normal German last name? signed: Alois Schicklgruber P.S.: That’s not **my** real name either, and a gold star sticker to anyone who figures out the relevance of that name to A.H. and the National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei ---
**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/123 "2004-03-15T13:42:19Z")
> [@Mycroft Holmes](#): > > But Hasenpfeffer is a perfectly normal German last name? > > signed: > > Alois Schicklgruber > > P.S.: That’s not **my** real name either, and a gold star sticker to anyone who figures out the relevance of that name to A.H. and the National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei Hitler’s father. **Hassenpfeffer** isn’t my last name anymore than **Bambi** is my first. It’s not even the right gender. I am ethnically German, but my IRL last name doesn’t reflect that. ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/124 "2004-03-15T14:49:25Z")
> [@Bambi Hassenpfeffer](#): > > Hitler’s father. > > **Hassenpfeffer** isn’t my last name anymore than **Bambi** is my first. I kind of guessed that. But it’s a really cool username. Reminds me of “Laverne and Shirley” whenever I see it. And I owe you a gold star sticker for getting the Schicklgruber reference right. ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/125 "2004-03-15T14:58:59Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve got a number of the same concerns you have fruitbat, but at the same time, I don’t see a way to do anything but give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word. Especially if the alternative is to run around shrieking “NAZI!” like the OP did. I would have felt differently if I didn’t make an unfortunate visit to their internet hometown. I can’t imagine that it is a board where someone with Millen’s stated views would post. It would be like finding that someone who claims to have vague sympathies with Palestinians sends money to Hezbollah. As my two previous pittings of fellow dopers indicates I am loath to see someone called a racist without just provocation. Nazi requires an even stricter standard for me to stomach the label. In my opinion the circumstantial evidence that Millen was indeed a Nazi, or as close as we get to one among these meatheads, was convincing. My opinon would change were it to be shown that the racist invasion was not prompted by Millen’s participation in the original thread. On a lighter note I couldn’t believe how many of our user names are replicated in their world. Among their prominent posters is a Fenris, Coldfire, MuadDib, and Winston Smith. I must stress I did not, would not, and would implore that no one from here, should post on a racist board. I was just trying to make a fair judgement as to the veracity of those who posted here. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/126 "2004-03-15T22:40:58Z")
> [@fruitbat](#): > > As my two previous pittings of fellow dopers indicates I am loath to see someone called a racist without just provocation. Nazi requires an even stricter standard for me to stomach the label. In my opinion the circumstantial evidence that Millen was indeed a Nazi, or as close as we get to one among these meatheads, was convincing. My opinon would change were it to be shown that the racist invasion was not prompted by Millen’s participation in the original thread. Based on his posting here taken in a vacuum, I’d disagree. but I hadn’t realized he was a Stormfrontie, in which case I’m considerably more skeptical of his claims than I was. > [@](#): > > On a lighter note I couldn’t believe how many of our user names are replicated in their world. Among their prominent posters is a Fenris, Coldfire, MuadDib, and Winston Smith. I must stress I did not, would not, and would implore that no one from here, should post on a racist board. I was just trying to make a fair judgement as to the veracity of those who posted here. Heh–their Fenris came over here during or just after the first Stormfront invasion and signed up as “Fenris01” or “Fenris1” for a while, leading to no little confusion and concern until The Powers That Be made him change his name. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/127 "2004-03-15T23:53:14Z")
Thought I’d do a quick search of the Stormfront message board, but it seems that **Millen88** , if he is a member, uses a different username there. I did find a thread there linking to the GD ‘defend white supremacy’ thread and it is quite incredible to read - most of the participants are of the opinion that dopers are closed-minded, one of them even claimed that posts (made here at the SDMB) would be edited to make a mockery of the poster. There’s a hell of a lot of paranoia and projection in that place. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/128 "2004-03-16T14:12:05Z")
> [@Epimetheus](#): > > Pretty bad when you are so stupid, stupid fights you. [Bob Marley] I fought the stupid, and the stupid won. [/Bob Marley] ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/129 "2004-03-16T20:10:13Z")
Joun Cougar: I fight authority and authority allways wins The Everley Brothers: I fought the law and the law won Bob Marley: I shot the sherif, but I did not shoot the deputy Which one are you really paraphrasing? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/130 "2004-03-16T20:29:50Z")
Not paraphrasing; conflating. I was thinking of _I Fought The Law (and the Law Won)_ by Sonny Curtis, the guitarist in the Bobby Fuller Four (1965). It’s also been done by Bryan Adams, by the Clash, by the Dead Kennedys, and no doubt many more. Mix that with a brainfart about reggae and you get my previous post. Oh, my – is stupidity catching? :eek: Although I must say, it would be interesting to hear a Bob Marley version of that song. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2004, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/131 "2004-03-16T20:34:17Z")
In an attempt to end this silly thread, that has completely ignored the issues I originally brought up, and instead heaped less than witty insults upon me, let me just clarify: 1. I did not imply that anyone useing 88 was a Nazi, but that when one who espouses whit supremisist beliefs useses it it seems too much of coincedence. 2. I did not suggest that he should not be allowed to post his beliefs. 3. I felt it would be improper to interject into the ongoing thread and therefore addresssed my concerns in the pit. 4. I do not suggest that anything he professed was in itself worthy of the charge of Nazism but that combined with a veiled reference to Hitler, I suspected that the true nature of his beliefs were based in Nazism. Since so many of you took offence at my voicing my suspicions here, I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/132 "2004-03-17T09:21:37Z")
> [@](#): > > It is not my place to “pigeon hole” an alien people. But, it would be in the best interest of Whites if we “pigeon-holed” ourselves. Nothing useful? IMO, survival is useful. And unless a miracle happens, that’s what it will take. Annyone want to say this guy is not a fascist? I think it is funny as hell that the two most voiceferous critics of me, have since started threads (one of them locked) against the very thing I was ranting about. I do not suggest that we ban Nazi’s but that we point them out and run them off with intelligent and caustic argument. I suggest that we not do as Ilsa Lund, Fenris, Marley23, gluteus maximus, NHIBI and others have done. That is we should not defend them. We should let them defend themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Bromley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@Bromley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bromley)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/133 "2004-03-17T14:25:33Z")
> [@](#): > > I do not suggest that we ban Nazi’s but that we point them out . . . What, with completely unjustified posts by you like those in [ss500’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=244743) GQ thread? I was going to pit you for that, not that I believed it would make any difference. Thankfully you’ve been warned and will have to keep your name policing to the pit. If you have a problem with something that someone says, then fair enough. Otherwise (and I know you won’t do this, but here’s hoping), STFU. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/134 "2004-03-17T15:42:55Z")
> [@](#): > > I was going to pit you Looks like you just did. I would certainly not deny you the right to tell me to STFU. I guess you did not see where I apologized to ss500 about 10 minutes after my admittedly innapropriate comment. It was late, and the stormfront assault had just begun. I was overly sensitive and apologized. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/135 "2004-03-17T15:44:19Z")
> [@](#): > > I do not suggest that we ban Nazi’s but that we point them out and run them off with intelligent and caustic argument. I suggest that we not do as Ilsa Lund, Fenris, Marley23, gluteus maximus, NHIBI and others have done. That is we should not defend them. We should let them defend themselves. Fuck you, you stupid dipshit. I’ve been arguing with these guys in GD since **BrainGlutton** ’s thread start, and I’ve posted in many of those that followed. Where the fuck have you been, you hypocrite? The few posts you’ve made to that one thread have consisted of moronic drivel like “As long as they don’t rent the trailer next to yours, right? (or the compound for that matter).” That’s not arguing with them, it’s just wasting space. You’ve managed to devote PLENTY of time to this fucking thread, though. Might I suggest you’ve spent more time here than using intelligent and caustic argument (as I’ve actually done, and as you say we should do) because you don’t have the intelligence to do so? Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![gluteus\_maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@gluteus\_maximus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gluteus_maximus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/136 "2004-03-17T16:23:42Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > I suggest that we not do as Ilsa Lund, Fenris, Marley23, gluteus maximus, NHIBI and others have done. That is we should not defend them. We should let them defend themselves. Are we _still_ doing this? :rolleyes: You _do_ realize, don’t you, that it’s entirely possible to be a fascist without being a Nazi? Do you understand the difference? (I’m neither, by the way) This post of yours is pretty funny, considering how you started out being all sensitive about ‘naming names’… I never defended your ‘encoded’ pittees. If you’d bothered to read the entire thread, you’d have noticed that I even defended you a couple of times when false or misleading comments were made about you. You’re welcome. For your convenience: [Post #82](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4640008&postcount=82) [Post #85](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4640104&postcount=85) [Post #98](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4640312&postcount=98) [Post #104](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4640483&postcount=104) [Post #107](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4640863&postcount=107) [Post #112](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4641331&postcount=112) [Post #116](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4641654&postcount=116) [Post #118](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4641713&postcount=118) [Post #120](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4642755&postcount=120) That, except for this post you’re reading now, is the complete list of my posts in this thread. Not once did I defend Nazis, bigots, racists, You-Name-the-Color-of-Your-Choice Supremacists, the KKK, the John Birch Society, the Pope, Mickey Mouse, Jerry Falwell, Charles Manson, The Sopranos, The Three Tenors, the Scientologists, Larry Flint, George Wallace, Annette Funicello, The Judean Peoples’ Front, Al Sharpton, Barbara Walters, the Teletubbies, Pee Wee Herman, or any of those guys. Your main problem is you just can’t keep it on track. Do you realize how similar a lot of your responses in this thread seem to those of the Stormfront clowns that got themselves banned? I think you were just disappointed that none of the ‘real’ Nazis took your bait. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/137 "2004-03-21T07:51:52Z")
> [@Epimetheus](#): > > Pretty bad when you are so stupid, stupid fights you. In Soviet Union… …meh, never mind. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161/138 "2004-03-21T08:35:46Z")
Damn dude, did you really have to drag this thread out of the basement? I was so relieved when it dropped off the front page. Now I am going to have to live with it for another couple of days till it drops off the front page again. Thanks alot bro. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-scum-that-like-useing-2-eights-psst-your-code-has-been-compromised/234161.md?page=6)