# I pit SkipMagic for being twee **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 5, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611 "2005-05-05T23:03:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/101 "2005-05-06T20:20:09Z")
But the board got his fifteen bucks, right? Just making sure we not lose sight of what’s important: make them _pay_ for the privilege of being banned. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/102 "2005-05-06T20:30:45Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > But the board got his fifteen bucks, right? > > Just making sure we not lose sight of what’s important: make them _pay_ for the privilege of being banned. Who got BANNED? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/103 "2005-05-06T20:42:38Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Who got BANNED? Too soon? _checks my watch_ ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/104 "2005-05-07T01:25:29Z")
> [@SkipMagic](#): > > Actually, I meant **Rick** and not **Rico**. I was referring to **Rick** ’s #[58](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6129971&postcount=58) post in this thread. Sorry about that. > > And, no, **RickJay** ’s comment wasn’t inappropriate. I, personally, wouldn’t have worded it the same way he did, but it wasn’t an attack on **guinnog** and was an attempt to put the thread back on its rails. Thanks for the clarification (and the soothing tone). And I apologise for jumping to conclusions, and to the wrong one at that. I would like to withdraw formally my implication that you are biased in any way to your friends, or those with long histories on the sdmb. A few more general points raised by this matter. The fine distinctions that it is commonplace to make here between “attacks on the person” and “attacks on the thinking of the person as evinced by his words” is one I believe doesn’t help the board. Because it leads to lawyer-like debates about words (always the most boring and fruitless type of debate) and to people coming as close as they are permitted to breaking Rule 1 of the board, but with apparent impunity because they can always use the (defensive) escape clause of “I was referring to his post” or the (assertive) one of “He was lucky I didn’t call him a fuckdickwadassholebigotattentionwhoreliar, but I was constrained by this not being the Pit”. I think that all baiting and goading dressed up as anticipation of someone being banned should be disallowed. Just like calling someone a troll, or making a reference to someone being on your ‘Ignore’ list. As for the sentiment expressed by **RickJay** that **guinnog** ‘managed to ruin one of the SDMB’s better threads, which includes five years of really good material, with his blithering idiocy about how anyone who has something nice to say about relatives who fought in the war loves war’, that’s really up to you, isn’t it? If you want to let guinnog’s [most recent post in that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6129133&postcount=342) function as some kind of Last Post, so that you can feed off feelings of hurt and outrage, then I really do wonder if all those people died in vain or not. ---
**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/105 "2005-05-07T01:34:36Z")
**guinnog** , I’ve been where you are. Well, no, not quite. I was chastised by a Mod. The head Mod. I was pissed and insulted. I took some time off the boards, thought about what had happened and came back and apoligised. I feel better about it and perhaps anyone else involved also feels better about me. Not that I need anymore friends but its a nice thought. What I didn’t do was start blaming everyone else for my own shortcomings. You have to realise this is going very bad for you and is not going to get better any time soon. Unless…You own up and admit what you did, if not wrong, was at the very least, in bad taste. When I first joined I had already read the noted thread and felt it was one of the most passionate, loving and respectful things I had ever seen. As a Canadian, I was overcome by it. For you to not realise you have sullied that for many members of this board is beyond my comprehension. Be the big man here, put an end to this. Apoligise! ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/106 "2005-05-07T02:23:41Z")
> [@guinnog](#): > > They can be very touchy, these Americans who never suffered diddley-squat compared to the Russians, the German civilians and hell, even the British civilians. Fuck off. How _dare_ you? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/107 "2005-05-07T02:35:31Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > How _dare_ you? He’s young (or at least acts young) and stupid, which pretty much explains everything. ---
**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/108 "2005-05-07T02:55:17Z")
He teaches children, which is rather frightening. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/109 "2005-05-07T03:21:17Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > Fuck off. > > How _dare_ you? In all fairness we were playing the politics of both sides, and didn’t enter the war until it seemed plausible for us to dominate Europe. The only real attack on our own soil was when we cut off Japan’s oil supply. Erek ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/110 "2005-05-07T03:28:30Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > In all fairness we were playing the politics of both sides, and didn’t enter the war until it seemed plausible for us to dominate Europe. The only real attack on our own soil was when we cut off Japan’s oil supply. > > Erek Yea Erek we sure dominated Europe. I mean gosh they are all clearly puppets of our emperialistic domination. :wally ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/111 "2005-05-07T03:32:28Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > He’s young (or at least acts young) and stupid, which pretty much explains everything. Don’t forget, he’s got a sphincter in his forehead. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/112 "2005-05-07T03:34:21Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > Don’t forget, he’s got a sphincter in his forehead. :rolleyes: Oops, wrong poster, never mind. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/113 "2005-05-07T08:55:03Z")
The guy is new, cut him some slack. The warnings given by moderators to people who truly aren’t aware they’re being “out of line” can be a bit blunt and feel humiliating. So one goes on the defensive and starts a pit thread, people start a pileon and we end up with this situation. I think that if SkipMagic had been a little more diplomatic, we wouldn’t be here. ---
**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/114 "2005-05-07T10:59:37Z")
> [@Gozu](#): > > The guy is new, cut him some slack. The warnings given by moderators to people who truly aren’t aware they’re being “out of line” can be a bit blunt and feel humiliating. So one goes on the defensive and starts a pit thread, people start a pileon and we end up with this situation. > > I think that if SkipMagic had been a little more diplomatic, we wouldn’t be here. Please, let’s stop blaming **Skip** for this situation. He didn’y put any words in this guys mouth. This is all of his own making. I agree, lets cut him some slack, newbie and all, but Jesus, where does it end! I realize **Skip** certainly doesn’t need me to defend him but that is just way off topic at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/115 "2005-05-07T13:07:34Z")
> [@Gozu](#): > > The guy is new, cut him some slack. The warnings given by moderators to people who truly aren’t aware they’re being “out of line” can be a bit blunt and feel humiliating. So one goes on the defensive and starts a pit thread, people start a pileon and we end up with this situation. Well, if his mother didn’t teach him to be civil, I don’t see why it’s _our_ responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/116 "2005-05-08T20:32:22Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > If I had been the mod in question\*, I would have bounced your ass out of here for your final comment in that thread I’m wondering why he was even here to make any comment in that thread, what with [this woodwork comment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6110137#post6110137). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/117 "2005-05-08T21:33:29Z")
> [@guinnog](#): > > twee > [@guinnog](#): > > twee > [@guinnog](#): > > twee You argue like you’re twee. Is you going to turn fouw soon? More seriously, if you can be serious in a thread where “twee” has been written so many times (it’s like being in a fucking aviary): **guinnog** , you’re new and totally clueless here, and you’ve adopted this tone and told **Skip** “I don’t like your language?” Are you so stupid you don’t see where that, and your ever-weakening attempts to justify this pitting, are going to rub people the wrong way? ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/118 "2005-05-08T21:34:54Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Yea Erek we sure dominated Europe. I mean gosh they are all clearly puppets of our emperialistic domination. :wally Imperialistic. [/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/119 "2005-05-08T21:36:56Z")
> [@CynicalGabe](#): > > Imperialistic. Hey, our empiricism has dominated Europe for years! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611/120 "2005-05-08T21:44:14Z")
> [@CynicalGabe](#): > > Imperialistic. Sure, if you’re trying to build an impire. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-skipmagic-for-being-twee/302611.md?page=7)