# I Pit Smacked Arses Who... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 11, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135 "2008-07-11T14:46:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/41 "2008-07-11T16:07:52Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] He has stated here [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9989553&postcount=118](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9989553&postcount=118) that I made false statements about, and gave insults to, other posters, which even though there were no specifics about anyone in the thread or elsewhere, I still apologised for the inappropriateness of. [/QUOTE] I see you called **Gatopescado** a fuckwad behind his back and didn’t get warned for that. Are you sure you want to play this game? I believe **Tom** was saying you insulted other posters by “wondering” if hunters are bed-wetters when you know there are hunters posting in that thread. And incidentally, I believe the MacDonald criteria for identifying serial killers has been discredited. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/42 "2008-07-11T16:08:36Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Are you the Prophet Of Doom? Why are you and others so determined to influence the mod’s towards banning me, when I have been here two weeks, and have only just managed to offend somebody’s sensibilities? [/QUOTE] I believe the countdown is a reference to the possible closure of your thread, not your banning. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/43 "2008-07-11T16:11:12Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Am I a fool, expecting tolerance, for the offences I have committed thus far? [/QUOTE] No, you’re a fool for complaining about being called on the offenses you’ve committed thus far. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/44 "2008-07-11T16:17:57Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Right, I’m gonna suspend myself for the weekend and hopefully come back with a better perspective on Monday. To anyone I have seriously annoyed or offended, I sincerely apologise this time, as it has never really been my intention. I know there are a lot of smart people on this forum, and I came here to learn from them, and to bounce thoughts of my own off them, and yes, occasionally pit my debating skills against them. Am I a fool, expecting tolerance, for the offences I have committed thus far? [/QUOTE] Not a fool, but mistaken. This board is pretty heavily moderated. The idea of going away for the weekend and coming back with some perspective is a great idea. My advice (which I don’t always take): when you think of a clever zinger in Great Debates, type it out, read it, smile smugly at how funny and clever you are, and then erase it. Don’t leave it in the post. Also, don’t don’t don’t make the argument personal. Again, I don’t always follow this, but I try to. Sometimes it’s extremely tempting to make things personal, when they person you’re arguing with is such a disingenuous twit (according to your own reckoning); but even then, you oughtta resist making it personal. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/45 "2008-07-11T16:21:13Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] _I see you called **Gatopescado** a fuckwad behind his back and didn’t get warned for that. Are you sure you want to play this game?_ And incidentally, **I believe the MacDonald criteria for identifying serial killers has been discredited.** [/QUOTE] _How about a link, for context purposes?_ \*\* Now _that’s_ the sort of response I was hoping for.\*\* Even though my suggestion was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/46 "2008-07-11T16:23:35Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Even though my suggestion was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. [/QUOTE] Which gets right back to the what-to-do-with-a-clever-zinger thing. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/47 "2008-07-11T16:24:44Z")
p.s. Thanks to those of you who have offered constructive advice to make my time on here more well spent! I appreciate your consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/48 "2008-07-11T16:31:11Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] _How about a link, for context purposes?_ [/quote] Give me a fucking break. Are you pretending not to know about a post you made yourself 24 hours ago? Tom may not have gotten it because it was referring to an MPSIMS thread, but it’s clear who you meant about “[the fuckwad who finds it fun to club bunnies with a 9 iron!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9987114&postcount=38)” If you are posting sincerely, you are correct to take a break and think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/49 "2008-07-11T16:41:26Z")
Ivan, your posts in the thread about Lunar landings made me think you’re either very young, or a little slow, but probably an okay guy. Now I find you’re a whiny bitch. You’re making me sad. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/50 "2008-07-11T16:49:45Z")
If I may, ivan’s shtick is to state a premise, then repeatedly (if not interminably) restate the premise. Every post of his in the big game hunter thread was just a variant on “big game hunters are bad”. Every post of his in _this_ thread is “I’m only kidding, you jerk!” I don’t see an actual debate or even a plausible _attempt_ at debate in either. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/51 "2008-07-11T16:53:11Z")
I’m Spartacus! Actually, I am. I reported your insult to all hunters to the Mods before you posted your half-hearted “apology.” Why report it rather than confront you with it? Because 1) it’s what we are supposed to do around here, and 2) because I’m on vacation and have better things to do than devote much time to the likes of you. ---
**Author:** ![Full\_Metal\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Full\_Metal\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Full_Metal_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/52 "2008-07-11T16:59:43Z")
Well… I was considering becoming a mod, but have, on the basis of this thread abandonded the idea. I mean it would be a great job, the gold plated lear jet with the Kundalinically adept flight attendants, the gourmet meals and of course the intimate connections to the secret and public world leaders. Don’t even mention the money and the hot tub filled with olive oil and supermodels on illegal aphrodisiacs. But the idea of being e-mailed by every whinging bozo that gets their feelings hurt because not every one agrees that bisexual ocelots should be painted pink and taught to fart the local national anthem agrees with them… WELL its just not worth it! In all seriousness I enjoy this board because of the richness of viewpoint it offers. On almost any subject you get the bisexual ocelot crowd, and you also get some great recipes for strawberry jam. And just about evereything in between. And that’s just on a thread about the history of fire hydrants. Not ONCE have I had my tongue in cheek in this post. Nope. Never. FML ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/53 "2008-07-11T17:06:25Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Am I a fool, expecting tolerance, for the offences I have committed thus far? [/QUOTE] Plenty of members have recovered from rough starts. There’s no reason you can’t either. ---
**Author:** ![muttrox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a8b319/32.png) [@muttrox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muttrox)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/54 "2008-07-11T17:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] I know there are a lot of smart people on this forum, and I came here to learn from them, [/QUOTE] You aren’t doing well so far. Your behavior does not seem like an honest attempt to learn. [QUOTE=ivan astikov] and yes, occasionally pit my debating skills against them. [/QUOTE] Focus more on the first part. You’ll get further. ---
**Author:** ![Trollhaugen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Trollhaugen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trollhaugen)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/55 "2008-07-11T18:54:47Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] it’s what we are supposed to do around here, [/QUOTE] This is pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/56 "2008-07-11T19:20:00Z")
[QUOTE=Trollhaugen] This is pathetic. [/QUOTE] No, it’s what’s requested by the PTB. Report posts to the mods instead of engaging in flaming. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/57 "2008-07-11T21:09:24Z")
[QUOTE=Trollhaugen] This is pathetic. [/QUOTE] Why? It obviously had the desired effect. Watching **ivan** yelp around like a puppy who just got his nose smacked is funny enough for the price of admission. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/58 "2008-07-11T21:59:42Z")
I can’t recall any specifics off the top of my head, but I seem to recall **Ivan** making some decent posts. No, I don’t agree with his tone here and in other threads, but let’s not burn him at the stake just yet. Now, if he continues to add wood to the fire here, burn away, but right now I think all we’ve got is some kindling. Ivan, when come back, be cool again. Then you’ll have no problems here! ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/59 "2008-07-11T22:03:38Z")
[QUOTE=bufftabby] Ivan, when come back, be cool again. Then you’ll have no problems here! [/QUOTE] And bring pie. That is the most important bit. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/60 "2008-07-11T22:48:39Z")
[QUOTE=Trollhaugen] This is pathetic. [/QUOTE] This is arrogant bullshit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135.md?page=4)