# I Pit Smacked Arses Who...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 11, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135 "2008-07-11T14:46:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/141 "2008-07-18T04:25:01Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Read my lips…S.P.E.C.I.F.I.C.S. if you don’t mind.

I like to learn from my mistakes, so if someone thinks I’ve made one, I want to know what it is!  
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[QUOTE=Wikipedia]

An _ad hominem_ argument, also known as _argumentum ad hominem_ (Latin: “argument to the man”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the _argumentum ad hominem_ works to change the subject.

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There you go.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/142 "2008-07-18T10:34:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
There you go.  
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Is that it!

Did you really think I was unaware what a ad hominem meant? Well, now you’ve been a little bit more specific, can you cite the ad hominem which closed the thread?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/143 "2008-07-18T11:06:16Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Can I get a second opinion?  
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Yes, you can keep the “Kick me!” sign on your back for as long as you remain here.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/144 "2008-07-18T11:07:32Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Did you really think I was unaware what a ad hominem meant?  
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Yes.

Next question?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/145 "2008-07-18T11:13:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
Yes.

Next question?  
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Where’s my cite?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/146 "2008-07-18T11:21:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
Yes, you can keep the “Kick me!” sign on your back for as long as you remain here.  
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I want to know EXACTLY why it was put on first. ( And if it’s so obvious, why am I not getting kicked everywhere I go?)

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/147 "2008-07-18T12:36:59Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Where’s my cite?  
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You need to keep track of your own cites.

Next question?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/148 "2008-07-18T12:38:06Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
why am I not getting kicked everywhere I go?)  
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Kicking is restricted to the Pit.

Next question?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/149 "2008-07-18T12:40:09Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I want to know EXACTLY why it was put on first.  
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You put it there, so ask yourself.

Next question?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/150 "2008-07-18T12:43:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
You put it there, so ask yourself.

Next question?  
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Do you want me to keep still while you try and kick me? You might have a better chance of landing one then, instead of just swinging your foot about like a silly twat!

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/151 "2008-07-18T12:44:02Z")

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Must be a slow day for you **Muffin**.

The troll is no longer entertaining us.

Please quit feeding him so that he will move on to the next attention getting attempt.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/152 "2008-07-18T12:49:58Z")

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- Fucking great big YAWN! \*

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/153 "2008-07-18T16:40:03Z")

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.  
I don’t care what anyone else says, I’d still sleep with Winona Ryder.  
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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/154 "2008-07-18T18:17:13Z")

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As far as I’m aware, that’s not a pit-able offence yet!

Does someone who’s impartial want to explain why my thread here [How Do Big Game Hunters Justify Their 'Sport'? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=474998) got closed, bearing in mind even if you removed my 65 rambling, nonsensical offerings, there were still another 49 people, contributing 146 posts, and that it still seemed to be of interest to readers?

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**Author:** ![muttrox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a8b319/32.png) [@muttrox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muttrox)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/155 "2008-07-18T18:26:05Z")

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Perhaps you should ask the moderator who shut it down.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/156 "2008-07-18T18:42:08Z")

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[QUOTE=muttrox]  
Perhaps you should ask the moderator who shut it down.  
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I thought I’d invite anyone else to offer an opinion first, to see if I was just being touchy!

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/157 "2008-07-18T19:33:50Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I thought I’d invite anyone else to offer an opinion first, to see if I was just being touchy!  
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A good rule of thumb is that if you think you’re being overly touchy/sensitive/a jerk, what-have-you, then you most likely are.

Many threads have been started asking “Am I overreacting?” or similar and usually the answer is yes.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/158 "2008-07-18T19:37:17Z")

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Well why can’t people stop beating around the fucking bush, and tell me exactly what I’ve done, so I can avoid doing it again?

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/159 "2008-07-18T19:42:33Z")

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Was **Tomndebb** ’s closing post confusing?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-smacked-arses-who/456135/160 "2008-07-18T20:03:38Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
Well why can’t people stop beating around the fucking bush, and tell me exactly what I’ve done, so I can avoid doing it again?  
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You were born. Don’t do it again.

Next question?

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