# I pit (some) dog owners

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 30, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848 "2010-10-30T02:25:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/201 "2010-12-02T22:06:20Z")

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> [@misterW](#):
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> A dog that runs up to me with excitement and jumps on me is the LAST dog that I would expect to bit me.

With intent to injure? Sure. But that doesn’t mean that they won’t scratch or bite playfully and, if I’m lucky, only damage my clothing.

> [@misterW](#):
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> But this boasting about kicking playful dogs… is that really something that people are boasting about?

Who’s boasting about kicking dogs? The only thing I recall is someone talking about how they’d push away any dog that jumped on them.

> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Oh please. I know you like to go about in these threads play devil’s advocate or whatever your motivation is, but if you are honestly worried that a dog jumping on you could be an indication it is going to bite, you are completely without a clue.

Oh look, you’re being a fucking retard again. Haven’t you gotten tired of everyone hating you yet?

Newsflash: I have been bitten by a neighbor’s “playful” dog. You dumb bitch.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/202 "2010-12-02T22:28:33Z")

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**Shot From Guns** wrote:

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> Who’s boasting about kicking dogs? The only thing I recall is someone talking about how they’d push away any dog that jumped on them.

> [@rhubarbarin](#):
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> Whatever, I have hit the fuckers hard right in the chest with my knee and knocked them down, and I feel no guilt. Usually I only have to actually knee-hit the ones that are clawing at my legs in a frenzy and causing me pain (and annoyance). Luckily none of their owners have yet attacked me for assaulting their Poopsie.

Just wanted to point this out. My stance is mixed a bit, as a dog owner myself.

In a nutshell, the ultimate burden should fall on the dog owner. Sure it may seem inappropriate to us dog owners when someone seems to overreact by behaving the way **rhubarbarin** describes - perhaps going as far as knocking down our beloved fidos. We may not wish to invite someone like her over to our homes any longer, (but I suspect people like she won’t miss the absence of further invitations.)

What I am saying, my point is we can all - as dog owner’s - agree we feel this mentality of getting physical with fido might be overreacting. But the ultimate burden is on us to keep the dog down an off of others, prevent this “overreaction” from occurring.

To us that love dogs, the simple act of a dog jumping up on someone may seem considerably too mild an act to be considered an assault.  
But assault it is nonetheless. Especially if the person who is being jumped on, pawed, does not wish it, and is indeed offended by it.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/203 "2010-12-02T23:57:18Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Oh look, you’re being a fucking retard again. Haven’t you gotten tired of everyone hating you yet?

Folks who make absolute statements tend to be, er, somewhat more retarded than average. When you add throwing stones out of a glass house, you really aren’t looking very good here.

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> Newsflash: I have been bitten by a neighbor’s “playful” dog. You dumb bitch.

Since you didn’t respond to what I said, I’d say that I’m not the dumb one here. Given your posting history and the “First Class Jerk” under your name, I’m not sure that I’m the bitch that you are either.

Wanna try again? 😃

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/204 "2010-12-03T17:08:34Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Just wanted to point this out.

Kneeing a dog in the chest to keep it off you isn’t kicking it. I’d say those are two different actions, and the words have \*very \*different connotations (and denotations, for that matter).

> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Folks who make absolute statements tend to be, er, somewhat more retarded than average.

Gee, sorry **curly**. Aren’t you sick of \*everyone who matters \*hating you yet? Honestly, you have to either be a masochist or a troll.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/205 "2010-12-03T17:25:04Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Sure it may seem inappropriate to us dog owners when someone seems to overreact by behaving the way **rhubarbarin** describes - perhaps going as far as knocking down our beloved fidos.

Actually, I would appreciate someone behaving harshly toward my dog if she jumped up on them. My dogs are well trained, but sometimes exuberance/excitement can take over. The last thing I want is someone tolerating inappropriate behaviour on my dog’s part. A knee to the chest and a harsh “NO” is fine with me.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/206 "2010-12-03T19:27:52Z")

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My husband’s dog, Lucy, loves my husband. She loves him so much that it radiates out her pores and infuses the room in which she inhabits. If she got it into her tiny brain that my husband would like her to jump off a cliff, she would bound joyously towards the nearest cliff and fling herself off, Thelma and Louise style, dying ecstatic in the knowledge that she has pleased her master. Needless to say, she would never try to hurt him.

However, in all her moronic doggy exuberance she has often hurt my husband. Her tail had nailed him the the balls on a number of occasions, she has scratched him with her claws and, on one really hilarious occasion, missed in aiming for the toy they were tug-of-warring with and bit his chest hard enough for her teeth to bruise his pectoral area. Just because this dog doesn’t mean to hurt my husband doesn’t mean she _won’t_ hurt him.

That is why I do not trust dogs. Ever. Dogs are Lenny in “Of Mice and Men”.

PS: When Lucy and I became house-mates I put a stop to her jumping up on people in about a week. All I had to do was step into or out of her trajectory to put her off balance and she learned to stop. Occasionally I put out my knee when she had me cornered. She was never hurt. She has not jumped up on anyone in years.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/207 "2010-12-03T19:52:49Z")

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Clearly you are wrong, mistaken, misremembering, know nothing about dogs, and have never lived with one or even seen one in person. Why are you so stupid?

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**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/208 "2010-12-03T20:19:12Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Actually, I would appreciate someone behaving harshly toward my dog if she jumped up on them. My dogs are well trained, but sometimes exuberance/excitement can take over. The last thing I want is someone tolerating inappropriate behaviour on my dog’s part. A knee to the chest and a harsh “NO” is fine with me.

Yeah, I’ve found many people aren’t offended by people letting their dog or child know in no uncertain terms that their behavior is inappropriate.

I’ve never seen any dog I’ve physically shoved off me show any signs of being in pain from my doing so, and I don’t desire to cause them pain.

I haven’t ever kicked a dog, and wouldn’t unless it was a matter of protecting myself or loved ones (including my dogs) from serious injury.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/209 "2010-12-03T22:45:39Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Gee, sorry **curly**. Aren’t you sick of \*everyone who matters \*hating you yet? Honestly, you have to either be a masochist or a troll.

_blink__You_ are saying this?

Wow, talk about a disconnect from reality.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/210 "2010-12-03T22:59:39Z")

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Joke’s on you, dear. People like _me_. More than one person has said that I’m one of their favorite people here, and the last time someone opened up a Pit thread directed at me, it pretty much turned into a \*\*SFG \*\*love-fest.

So, where are the people claiming \*you \*as their favorite poster? Where are the Pit threads with people leaping to \*your \*defense?

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/211 "2010-12-06T03:53:19Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Joke’s on you, dear. People like _me_. More than one person has said that I’m one of their favorite people here, and the last time someone opened up a Pit thread directed at me, it pretty much turned into a \*\*SFG \*\*love-fest.

And? There have been far more than one person that has said they cannot stand the way you post and called you a troll. Which is why it’s funny that you cast stones at me from your brittle house.

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> , where are the people claiming \*you \*as their favorite poster? Where are the Pit threads with people leaping to \*your \*defense?

I doubt there is one. Of course, that has nothing to do with your original stupid comments in this thread, which you are trying to get me to forget you made by trying this grade school stuff. If it amuses you to act like a five year old, go ahead but don’t think you are fooling everyone with it.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/212 "2010-12-06T06:22:35Z")

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Welcome to today.

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**Author:** ![RedWood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f08c70/32.png) [@RedWood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedWood)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/213 "2010-12-06T15:37:15Z")

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why yes, folks who do not live with companion animals (like my Mom) do not understand their behaviour. That’s why I put my bouncy kittencat in a closed room when Mom comes over: Jasmine has not yet understood that not everyone wants a lapful of cat. Even 7 pounds of Not-One’s-Own-Pet can be annoying.  
I do not permit anyone’s dog to jump on me. If one tries, I hold up a knee between me and dog, saying “Down!” I love dogs, pat them whenever I can, and will permit them to lick my face… if all their paws are _on the ground._ That way, I don’t get muddy pawtographs all over me. No dog owner has ever complained that I was cruel to their dog by holding up one knee… most have apologised profusely.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/214 "2010-12-06T17:48:40Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> And? There have been far more than one person that has said they cannot stand the way you post and called you a troll. Which is why it’s funny that you cast stones at me from your brittle house.

And none of those people are ones whose opinions I care about.

So, let’s review, shall we?

Me: Loved by worthwhile people. Hated by retards.  
You: Hated or–at best–vaguely tolerated by worthwhile people. Tolerated or ignored by retards.

So, I ask again: Why are you still here?

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/215 "2010-12-06T18:47:02Z")

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Don’t know if any reason to stay but I like curlcoat.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/216 "2010-12-06T20:22:34Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Don’t know if any reason to stay but I like curlcoat.

Huh, I could \*swear \*I had you mentally tagged as “not retarded.”

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**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/217 "2010-12-06T20:35:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …on one really hilarious occasion, missed in aiming for the toy they were tug-of-warring with and bit his chest hard enough for her teeth to bruise his pectoral area.

Once I was in bed with shorts on playing tug of war with a rope with my beagle. He lunged and missed the rope and chomped down on something that could, ahem, understandably be mistaken for a long, thick rope. 😃 Fortunately he didn’t bite down very hard so it wasn’t as painful as it could have been…

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/218 "2010-12-06T22:14:21Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> So, I ask again: Why are you still here?

To kill time.

And again, you are sidestepping discussing your original stupid comments by continuing with this childish shit. How old are you anyway?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/219 "2010-12-07T01:34:59Z")

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Wahhhh!!

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-some-dog-owners/558848/220 "2010-12-07T04:11:20Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> To kill time.
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> And again, you are sidestepping discussing your original stupid comments by continuing with this childish shit. How old are you anyway?

Ooooh, \*\*curlcoat \*\*swearing! \*\*Curlcoat \*\*angry! \*\*Curlcoat \*\*smash!

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