# I pit Sony Pictures

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 11, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484 "2011-05-11T05:17:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/41 "2011-05-12T22:37:13Z")

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> [@FlyingDragonFan](#):
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> When _Tron Legacy_ came out a few weeks back, I wanted to 3D version to enjoy on my new TV. To get the 3D Blu-ray disc, I had to buy the 3D Blu-ray, regular Blu-ray, DVD, _and_ digital copy. That’s just silly.

In Australia, I managed to get the T:L 3D BD paired only with the 2D BD (which is fine–I want a 2D version for my PC). The original _Tron_ BD was actually a single-disc set, too.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/42 "2011-05-12T22:44:08Z")

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2 Anecdotes:  
My dad has a BD player in the living room. He and my stepmum, and my sister have DVD players in their bedrooms. My little sister also has a portable DVD player to watch in the car.

I have a PS3 in the living room that we can use and often do, as a BD player. I have a portable DVD player in my bedroom that I retreat and watch either at bedtime, or at times when I don’t have uninterrupted access to the big TV in the living room.

It’s not uncommon for folks to have multiple players. Blu-Ray is still at the point where it’s more often part of the big entertainment system in the living room, but other areas of the house still have standard DVD players. A lot of folks that I know anecdotally quite like these multi-disk packs, because they are often cheaper than buying two of the same movie, and it allows them to watch the movie in multiple places in the home.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/43 "2011-05-12T22:48:38Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> It’s not uncommon for folks to have multiple players. Blu-Ray is still at the point where it’s more often part of the big entertainment system in the living room, but other areas of the house still have standard DVD players. A lot of folks that I know anecdotally quite like these multi-disk packs, because they are often cheaper than buying two of the same movie, and it allows them to watch the movie in multiple places in the home.

I find it convenient for that reason. If you’re buying the BD, the DVD is often handy and rarely superfluous. However, I can understand being annoyed by buying the DVD and getting a pricier BD bundled with it that you can’t even play.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/44 "2011-05-12T23:14:37Z")

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I would just hazard to guess that, unlike _Inception_, _The Illusionist_ has a much much smaller demand and or/ market and the decision on whether to offer separate versions is reflective of that fact. Packaging, shipping, maintaining inventory for two separate versions that will sell in limited quantities, probably makes sense.

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/45 "2011-05-12T23:46:22Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, I wouldn’t and I don’t see any reason why you’d assume I would. I just wouldn’t buy the meal like I didn’t buy the movie.
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> And you’re missing the point. This isn’t about a product that has a high cost. This about two products being sold exclusively as a package so that customers have to buy both even though most people are only going to want one.

Actually, I am getting the point.

Sony is puttting out a product and you don’t like what they are selling. Therefore, in your OP, you state that is a legitimate reason for piracy. I can understand wanting to buy one or the other, however the fact that you don’t like Sony’s packages isn’t a justification for piracy.

Secondly, you state:

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> What possible justification is there for only releasing it in a DVD/Blu Ray combo pack? 99% of the people who want the DVD copy don’t want a Blu Ray copy and 99% of the people that want a Blu Ray copy don’t want a DVD copy. But Sony decided if you want either copy you have to buy both.

As others have stated, for a ton of people this is incorrect.

Slee

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/46 "2011-05-13T03:23:26Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> Actually, I am getting the point.
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> Sony is puttting out a product and you don’t like what they are selling. Therefore, in your OP, you state that is a legitimate reason for piracy. I can understand wanting to buy one or the other, however the fact that you don’t like Sony’s packages isn’t a justification for piracy.
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> Secondly, you state:
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> As others have stated, for a ton of people this is incorrect.
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> Slee

This is what happens when you run ahead of the data. You reach false conclusions.

I didn’t offer a legitimate reason or justification for piracy. I said it exists - that doesn’t mean I approve of it.

And a ton of people is how many? Let’s say twenty on average. I think I’m still well within my one percent margin.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/47 "2011-08-07T23:18:55Z")

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Borders: going out of business sale.

The Illusionist: $17.53

Ha!

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/48 "2011-08-08T17:22:36Z")

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This is part of why pirating is such an attractive prospect these days. Get the movie for free in a couple hours, burn it yourself, and skip all those pesky menus and adverts.

YOU HEAR THAT SONY? YOUA CULPA!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/49 "2011-08-08T18:04:54Z")

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I feel it’s going to eventually blow up in the producers’ faces. They’re trying to maintain an artificial system.

There’s the claims that it’s all for the artists. Which is ridiculous. The current system is set up for the businessmen. For every dollar you pay, they pocket ninety-five cents and give the artist a nickel.

As customers, we’d prefer a system where we pay ten cents and the artist gets the entire dime. The artist would also prefer it because he gets twice as much (and probably more because the lower price would also mean more sales).

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-sony-pictures/581484/50 "2011-08-09T15:11:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Oh sure. Because movies are all pretty much interchangeable. I usually just buy whichever one is the cheapest per pound.Yes, its list price is thirty nine dollars. A DVD copy by itself would cost about half that.

I still remember when dvd’s first came out, everyone said it would reduce the price of production and they would end up cutting prices in half.

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