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{joke stolen from Disney’s Phineas & Ferb cartoon}
Ha. Who was it couldn’t get over the war again? You do make it obvious it’s not southern women who are the problem. You did remind me of why this thread is so backwards as well.
I was at a bar a while back talking to a woman I hadn’t seen since college and just catching up on the folks from the old hangout when this yankee starts hitting on her. She is good looking so it’s kind of a break for her to talk to a guy who is just a friend and it added to her annoyance that this guy was butting in. The guy could not take a hint. Obnoxious entitled dickhead. The north doesn’t have a monopoly on them but when they come south they ramp up the asshole somehow. Sort of like you they have a chip on thier shoulder for no reason. Sort of like the OP they feel they can demand a womans time.
She took it better than I would have in her stead and was polite but firm over and over again. Just as I was about to say something he said “well, we kicked your ass in the war”. For no reason. She had been exhaustingly nice. She just smiled and said “yes, but we got over it and we’re doing fine without you.” I had to laugh. You peckerheads bring it on yourselves. You really do. I still had to lean over and ask if he wanted a rematch. He didn’t say another word. Yeah, talk is talk aint it?
To play devil’s advocate, it’s possible he heard that Southern women are notoriously easy and just assumed she was playing hard to get.
I will say one thing that discredits the South, and if I’m in error, please fight my ignorance:
For a place that’s so full of trees, your traditional carpentry sucks.
And it has nothing to do with the stereotype of Southern Ignorance or laziness. If there ever were any truth to them it should have been dispelled right after the War: Atlanta truly was the phoenix city (and Sherman was wasting his time burning down a wooden city in the middle of a huge forest).
I now live down here, and when I visit museums and traditional crafts venues, I’m unimpressed by how things were built in the pre-industrial era. Architecture and equipment that was constructed just good enough to do what it needed to do. No style or extra ingenuity, just unloved clapboards.
Compare that to the woodworking skills of the Shakers, the Maori, the Russians and Japanese: cultures that could treat a block of wood like it was a stick of butter. Or the Northern US, where I lived in the northern forest belt. There’s carpentry in Wisconsin and Washington State that’s amazing to look at.
Southern mansions are grand and magnificently proportioned, but the craftsmanship in them is nothing compared to their counterparts in places such as the Thousand Islands in New York.
The only explanation I have is that the North was settled by Germans and Scandinavians who brought a woodworking culture along with them, while the South was settled by people from sparsely-treed Scotland and Ulster.
Okay…sounds like you are taking this banter seriously. You couldn’t have responded with something like “OH yea…and it took 4 of you for every one of us to finally take us down?!” or something? You know…banter. Or does losing make you humorless?
As for the OP, you are being hard on him. Yea, women don’t owe him their time…but there is a culture down there (and in most rural areas) of shunning ‘foreign’ guys unless they are cute and the dividing line/criteria seems to be arrived at early and capriciously…and he was just grumping about that. Understandable and I don’t think he was insisting that they owed him…he just wants a fair shake.
The poster that talked about rural areas seeming to decide that a guy was goofy and should be shunned or kind of cute and should be set-up/accepted does exist. I have lived in 2 different rural areas and experienced both of these - one in one area and the other in another. It tends to make you love one area and think it is great and to absolutely develop an intense dislike of the other. Imagine if you only experienced this once and it was the shunning and you happen to experience it in the South…it will tend to get you a bit…grumpy.
As for the OP…it’s not just the South…it is rural areas…doesn’t matter where.
That’s a very interesting perspective, and one I’ll have to think on. But at first thought, I’d agree with you.
Two things:
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You seem to think everything under the Mason Dixon Line is “rural”.
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The guy is in Gulf Shores. That is a tourist town on the Gulf of Mexico. The damn Yankee is at the beach and not having luck with the women. Gulf Shores is in no way “rural” Can I stress that enough? The guy is at the beach and bitching about the women.
I still don’t see your point in that statement, or why you think the problem lies with me.
I’m doing absolutely nothing other than talking to these girls. “Hi How are you, where do you live? What do you do? Are you from here? Oh, that’s interesting..tell me about…” There is nothing in those lines of questions that is hitting on them, I don’t mention their looks, ask for their number, do any of that stuff. I’m making conversation and they shun me for it simply because I don’t have a drawl.
I understand why you put the story of your good looking friend who’s tired of guys hitting on her and the asshole that talked with her, I get that…but he was an asshole who couldn’t take the hint and was actively hitting on her…I’m doing no such thing and I STILL get the hate simply because of how I talk
Also it doesn’t matter that I’m at the beach and complaining about the girls. The beach kinda sucks when you’re there alone…the bars kinda suck when you’re there alone…mini golf, regular golf, dolphin cruises, deep sea fishing…all things that suck when you’re alone. Paradise can only take you so far when you have no one to enjoy it with.
Honest question: Are you a virgin?
Nope. Why?
Because you seem to be blaming the women around you for not liking you, rather than wondering if it might be you.
Right. Because I am blaming the women around for not liking me, because they have no reason to not like me.
They don’t know me, their experience with me is maybe 20 min of polite conversation, and obviously no one here knows me or has talked with me but my personality is such where I don’t come across as intimidating. My picture is on the photo thing in MPSIMS, you can look for yourself. My biggest fault would probably be that I’m not attractive so I don’t have the girls actively wanting to get with me on the “decides in seven seconds or less if they’re gonna sleep with me” snap decision thing…but it’s not like I can really help that.
One of the reasons that I do blame them and not me, and one of the reasons I made the thread, is because they dismiss me just by hearing me talk, or where I’m from. That has nothing to do with me…that’s on them.
no comment.
See. I think that IS your problem. Before you’ve gotten more than few words out you are already in the “probably not” column (not that I think that is fair). Once you are in that column women will look for the slightest thing to justify it. Once that Yankee talking starts thats what they latch onto. If it wasn’t that it would be some other piddly thing. And, to reverse roles, I suspect if you were born southerner meeting girls up north they would be pulling the same thing, except the excuse would be that you were from the south.
Lot of women are bitches. The south part is an illusion based upon your particular circumstances.
You do have my sympathy though. Hope you have fun down there otherwise. Have you thought about learning to scuba dive?
You could go on some mosquito rides.
Which apparently must be taught in schools ‘up thar’.
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2) The guy is in Gulf Shores. That is a tourist town on the Gulf of Mexico. The damn Yankee is at the beach and not having luck with the women. Gulf Shores is in no way “rural” Can I stress that enough? The guy is at the beach and bitching about the women.
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Exactly. A city that gets millions of visitors each year, a huge number of them horny obnoxious northern college boys hitting on local girls with all the grace of marines in a Saigon brothel. How very odd that local girls aren’t that impressed with or interested in guys who are there temporarily from up north and make no secret of looking down on southerners to begin with.
I can say with almost utmost certainty it’s not your accent that is making them dismiss you. You are giving off major creepy vibes of some sort or are extremely unattractive. My guess is the former.
What I love about this- and I’ve heard it too- is that what it’s saying is “millions of long dead and turned to bone and dust guys, a tiny portion of whom happened to live in the area of the nation I’m from, managed to militarily defeat millions of long dead and turned to bone and dust guys, a tiny portion of whom happened to live in the area of the nation where you’re from, after an intense struggle that lasted four years, led to hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions of injuries on both sides, long before [most likely] anybody in earshot’s grandparents were born”. The words ‘we’ and ‘your’ are completely totally erroneous; neither side has any real or tangible connection to anything in the war be it atrocity or valor. You wonder if the same people would brag to a Sauk Indian “We” kicked your asses across the Mississippi!" a generation before, or if they’d tell a Spaniard “We” showed that bitch Maria Christinawho’s boss!" a generation later, or if their knowledge of history is limited to 1865, which they seem to think was a relatively easy fight.
Either way, when somebody is classless and clueless enough to say this it’s the one time that I really hope for rednecks to show up. Preferably some who wish to avenge the blood filled boot of Albert Sidney Johnston, and will release said person only if he can answer questions about Albert Sidney Johnston and write an essay about the effects of the 1876 Election on Reconstruction and do a very lengthy objective section to prove he knows one fucking thing about said war.
I just reread the whole thread to verify, and I think I found your problem: you’re trying to just make friends in a bar.
My experience has been that you don’t just make friends in a bar - the bar is where you go to make hook ups. If you’re approaching single women in a bar, they are DEFINITELY going to assume you’re trying to hook up with them in a way that may be awfully friendly but in no way implies just friends. And said women are likely going to find whatever excuse they can not to talk to you if you aren’t what they are after - your Yankee accent is just the thing to indicate that they aren’t interested without trying to bust your balls for being too weird/awkward/dressed funny/what have you.
If you sincerely want just friends, take up a hobby. Find something you like to do in the local area and find other people who do it. You will instantly remove the “this guy is a creeper looking to hook up” angle by approaching someone you know at least shares a common interest. Hell, even if you do want to find someone to hook up with, this is the best way to go about it.
Bars are meat markets, and are going to be treated as such, and in a well traveled, tourist laden beach town, if you aren’t 100% Grade A Prime, you’ll likely be treated like that. Sucks, but it isn’t a southern thing - its a bar in a tourist town thing.
A very good point, and I agree with you for the most part the only problem with me finding a club of sorts and joining it is that I’m only here for 2 more months and will leave again.