# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/402 "2023-12-20T20:42:04Z")
The polls don’t show the lack of black support for Biden/Harris? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/403 "2023-12-20T20:44:21Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Reparations is not my thing, as I’ve said. No, it seems like your thing is to denigrate African Americans. Is that you Uncle Ruckus? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/404 "2023-12-20T20:45:16Z")
FOR FUCKS SAKE!!! Can you read for comprehension? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/405 "2023-12-20T20:45:47Z")
So now I’m racist against black Americans? Well ok. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/406 "2023-12-20T20:47:20Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > So now I’m racist against black Americans? Well ok. It’s just sooooo tempting… ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/407 "2023-12-20T20:51:21Z")
Well, I don’t know. The polls are saying Biden/Harris are losing black support. My cites are showing that black people don’t like the current immigration policy, among other things, which is seen as the Biden/Harris policy. I try to give some historical background of why descendants from US chattel slavery don’t get along with immigrants now to give some context to the polls. I’m labeled as a racist. Am I understanding that correctly? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/408 "2023-12-20T20:51:53Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I don’t get the problem with me linking to this. I’m sure. There’s obviously lots of things you don’t “get”, even when they’re carefully explained. In your last cite in the P&E thread, you posted a link to a Wiki article about Venezuela under the heading “Why Venezuela is seen to be racist”. But the article says absolutely no such thing. It was the last straw in your delusional and unsupported bloviations there and the reason you finally got booted out of the thread, though I’m sure you still don’t “get it”. I have no special interest in this topic but I’m rather astounded by your world view which seems to be so irredeemably delusional that reality and reason are entirely beyond your grasp. I guess that explains your lunatic conspiratorial beliefs and abhorrent views on immigrants. I don’t claim to understand how you came to be this way but you’re evidently not very bright. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/409 "2023-12-20T20:54:15Z")
That article explains the demographics of the country and how non-mixed black people were treated. That part is near the bottom of the article. In fact the largest population Moreno, which are African European mix, are fleeing the country. According to a post in that thread they are fleeing to the US though other South American countries. Black Americans descended form chattel slavery here in the US don’t get along with them. It’s just a fact they are telling you as much in the cites I gave. So what is the fucking problem with linking to this article? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/410 "2023-12-20T21:04:24Z")
By Jove, I’ve got it! You have even less of a grip on reality than I do! It’s frightening but it all makes sense now. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/411 "2023-12-20T21:18:01Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Can you read for comprehension? Conspiracy theorists only comprehend when and what they feel like comprehending. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/412 "2023-12-21T00:14:59Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Harris is seen as white or mixed in the eyes of black voters. Does this also apply to Obama, who is also not “a real black” by your standards? If so, why did he win the black vote twice? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/413 "2023-12-21T02:13:43Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > As I was saying, Jamaican’s don’t consider themselves to be black the way the US does As someone who has lived in rural Jamaica for a year, I can confidently say you are full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/414 "2023-12-21T12:11:03Z")
“Kamala Harris isn’t quite black enough, therefore black people will allow the party that actively advocates their persecution and/or extermination to win” remains a fun argument. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/415 "2023-12-22T14:50:46Z")
Once again, it’s not my standards, but yes, he is considered mixed race by black descendants of US slavery. Even more so because his father was an immigrant, not descended from US slavery. He is not full black like I am. White society in the US says any mixture of black makes the person full black, this goes back hundreds of years. It’s not me saying it, but that view from the greater white society is not the reality. It’s all about how these communities perceive themselves. The same society also said the Irish and Italians were not white 100 years ago. Do I really have to explain how US society works here? Of course Obama won the black vote, we were voting for the Democratic party solidly back then anyway. There were still a lot of boomers around back then as well. Biden will still win the black vote in '24 but there is a big problem now. This is going to be a margin election, just like '20. All it will take for Trump to win is a small percentage of black voters to not vote in the swing states. I’m not trying to speak for every black person, but the polls are clearly showing he is losing that small percent. I’m trying to give some context as to why this is happening. The only way to change it is to understand what is actually happening. I’m actually still shocked that I’m being attacked for this. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/416 "2023-12-22T14:52:34Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > He is not full black like I am. Got it. You’re the only REAL black person. I for one welcome our new ebony overlords. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/417 "2023-12-22T14:59:26Z")
Man, I really don’t know what to do with this. I never said I’m the only real black person. But how can you deny that a person like Obama, who’s mother is white and father is black is not fully black? I already know the reason. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/418 "2023-12-22T15:01:49Z")
Um, your “it’s not me, it’s what society thinks” shtick just evaporated. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/419 "2023-12-22T15:05:01Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I never said I’m the only real black person. But how can you deny that a person like Obama, who’s mother is white and father is black is not fully black? I’m just gonna quote this and leave it here in case you edit again. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/420 "2023-12-22T15:09:28Z")
A lot of black people see that is the case no matter what party or who is president, you do get that right? They are not going to vote for Trump of course, they just won’t vote. The polls are proving this. Biden will win the black vote, no question, but will it be by enough. We are talking about probably less than 100K votes across the swing states here making the difference. You can attack me and try to ignore what I’m saying here, but Biden is in real trouble. I’m giving context into one issue on why. Add to that young people in general leaving him over the Israel issue and it’s over. Trump wins, even though most people still will not have voted for him. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/421 "2023-12-22T15:11:16Z")
Ok but why would I edit this. He’s half white half black. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=22)