# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/462 "2023-12-22T17:55:20Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Holy fuck, I’m like banging my head against the wall here. Now you know how we feel… ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/463 "2023-12-22T17:59:30Z")
Perceived, perceived, by the black community to be majority racist. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/464 "2023-12-22T18:01:28Z")
I"m still not seeing that in the ‘cite’ you provided. An analogy ‘43% think man-eating sharks are bad. 52% think medical waste is bad’ does not equal ‘95% of people think ocean is toxic and unsafe everywhere’ ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/465 "2023-12-22T18:07:08Z")
Whatever, I’m fucking you guys up on this, but it doesn’t make me happy. If Biden continues down this path he will almost surely lose. I’m trying to explain why and without tact. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/466 "2023-12-22T18:09:36Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m fucking you guys up on this What color is the sky in your world? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/467 "2023-12-22T18:10:30Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Whatever, I’m fucking you guys up on this, but it doesn’t make me happy. If Biden continues down this path he will almost surely lose. You’ve very firmly established long ago that you have an extremely tenuous grasp on reality. You have to realize that once you’ve done that, nothing you claim is going to have any credibility. Zero. (I take that back, maybe you **don’t** have to realize that. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/468 "2023-12-22T18:12:50Z")
Except we are not talking about that BS. I’m responding to a new pitting after posting in a real thread regarding Biden and his VP pick. This the headline of the poll I just posted: # Black Americans differ from other U.S. adults over whether individual or structural racism is a bigger problem ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/469 "2023-12-22T18:15:30Z")
I think either individual or structural racism can be big problems without the majority of white people being racist. That’s why the poll doesn’t seem to reflect that Black people necessarily think most white people are racist. A better cite would be a poll showing that Black people think most white people are racist. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/470 "2023-12-22T18:22:47Z")
It’s not me, that’s the real point. I stand by my 911 thoughts, and still think the BLM movement as a whole was bullshit. I wasn’t pitted for that. In this topic, the Biden/Harris ticket against Trump, the polls are saying it. No one seems to be able to understand why Biden is losing support among black people and I’m trying to explan why. I just cited a poll that most black people think all white people are racist. The immigrants or asylum seeks think and try to act as if they are white, I tried to give some context as to why. It’s a problem for Biden in the election. You all can attack and say I’m just some nutjob, but the polls are reflecting this. I’m just doing easy searches and bringing up things that show the true mindset. Biden is probably going to lose if we don’t start talking about these kinds of issues, and then we are truly fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/471 "2023-12-22T18:26:49Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I just cited a poll that most black people think all white people are racist. No, you didn’t. That’s not what the poll says. Look, I am a woman. I believe individual misogyny and structural misogyny (patriarchy) are both big problems. I believe structural misogyny is the bigger problem. I do not believe all or even most men are misogynist. That’s the distinction people are trying to point out. That said, I’m not sure “most black people think white people are racist” is really an outrageous claim. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/472 "2023-12-22T18:27:39Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I just cited a poll that most black people think all white people are racist. The immigrants or asylum seeks think and try to act as if they are white, I tried to give some context as to why. Again, you are literally **the only person** drawing these conclusions. Because you are a fucking lunatic incapable of reason. When asked for cites, you say they don’t exist because people are too afraid to admit it. You are pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/473 "2023-12-22T18:27:41Z")
For reference, a WaPo poll in 2014 found that more black people call Barack Obama black than mixed race (55/34), while the numbers flip for white people (24/52). [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/04/14/is-barack-obama-black/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/04/14/is-barack-obama-black/) So split is still full of shit, trying to pass off their views as the views of blacks nationwide. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I just cited a poll that most black people think all white people are racist. You didn’t cite shit. You’re attempting to infer far more of your own view into a poll that doesn’t deal with it at all. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/474 "2023-12-22T18:33:27Z")
I’m not going to argue this poll from 2014. Except to say that was 10 years ago. Obama the was black boomers dream, things have changed. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/475 "2023-12-22T18:35:12Z")
Feel free to come up with something not from your head to disprove it. Should be easy, given it took me more time to type “poll of blacks who believe Obama isn’t black” into google than to find the relevant article. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/476 "2023-12-22T18:36:18Z")
I’m not the only person, that’s the point. Current polls show black support for Biden are way lower than in '20. It’s not me saying it, it’s not my word. how do you explain the polls today? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/477 "2023-12-22T18:38:31Z")
Yes, because there is a poll asking just that question. Extrapolate the data and then wake up. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/478 "2023-12-22T18:38:44Z")
Meanwhile, out here in the real world… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/479 "2023-12-22T18:39:00Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m not the only person, that’s the point. Current polls show black support for Biden are way lower than in '20. The sun rose today, that means that it was drawn by horses in the sky. My cite is the sun. See, we can both play the bullshit game. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Extrapolate the data and then wake up. And this is where you reveal yourself. This is the problem with you and other conspiracy theorists. Everyone but you needs to “wake up” to the “truth”. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/480 "2023-12-22T18:40:46Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m talking about the reality of white supremacy in the US. Obama is not a black man, he is mixed. White supremacy in the US may label him as black, but I could just as easily call him white. > > The black community would say he is mixed. His wife however is black. He and his children are only black in the eyes of white supremacy. Sincerely curious here: does the black community view the descendants of Sally Hemings as black? To be clear, I specifically mean the ones that share Thomas Jefferson’s DNA. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/481 "2023-12-22T18:40:52Z")
The poll asked nothing of the sort. 95% of black people in the US stating racism is a problem does not conflate to EVERYONE is racist, except in your fever dreams where you speak for all black people in the US. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=25)