# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/482 "2023-12-22T18:41:00Z")
The real world where Trump is up in the polls, and is likely to win in '24? I guess you all will blame black people then. “Well you see, black people just didn’t show up to vote in the numbers needed.” ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/483 "2023-12-22T18:42:24Z")
The real world, like not _your head_ ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/484 "2023-12-22T18:45:01Z")
So it’s just in my head that Trump is crushing Biden, the sitting president in the polls? Or is it another case where the polls don’t mean anything. Unless you use them here to attack splitpj ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/485 "2023-12-22T18:46:11Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m fucking you guys up on this, I think you meant to say “I’m fucking up on this, you guys”. Because you are. I admit I thought that _surely_ you could produce _some_ sort of poll about how many black people think all white people are racist. There’s gotta be a poll like that out there somewhere, no matter how tenuous, right? But no. But keep doubling down. It’s going great. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > So it’s just in my head that Trump is crushing Biden, the sitting president in the polls? Or is it another case where the polls don’t mean anything. > > Unless you use them here to attack splitpj “It’s everyone else’s fault that all my cites have nothing to do with the claim I keep making!” Deflect, deflect deflect. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/486 "2023-12-22T18:48:15Z")
Umm. Hate to tell you this but the poll system is kinda broken. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/487 "2023-12-22T18:49:24Z")
Yes you got me. The black vote is increasing for Biden as we speak. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/488 "2023-12-22T18:49:34Z")
No one is arguing the polls. They’re arguing against your moronic reasons for the results. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/489 "2023-12-22T18:51:39Z")
So you do agree black support for Biden is down? If you do, why do you think that is the case? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/490 "2023-12-22T18:53:11Z")
Sure, now it’s broken when it doesn’t say what you want it to say. If this is the case, why use any poll ever? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/491 "2023-12-22T18:55:52Z")
I’m giving context as to why, which only new black media is doing. Regular mainstream media is still scratching their heads wondering why black people are leaving Biden and the Dems. Not going to Trump of course, but not really backing the Dems. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/492 "2023-12-22T19:02:45Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Yes you got me. The black vote is increasing for Biden as we speak. Oh look - another response that has absolutely nothing to do with the point being made. When I said “deflect, deflect, deflect”, you know I wasn’t suggesting that you _really_ keep doing that, right? The more you deflect, the more the weakness of your argument becomes evident. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/493 "2023-12-22T19:35:28Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m giving context as to why, which only new black media is doing. Have you provided any cites from the new black media yet? Hard to keep up, but I recall you say something to the effect that you wouldn’t because others would just consider them biased. But a cite or two would immediately obliterate the claims that you’re manufacturing these arguments, that they’re your opinions only, unsupported by anything but your own biases. Seriously, given how miserably “take my word for it” is working out for you, why not provide actual evidence that you’re not making this stuff up out of whole cloth? Even if people find the sources less than credible, at least no one would accuse you of presenting personal fantasy as fact. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/494 "2023-12-22T20:02:10Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > So you do agree black support for Biden is down? If you do, why do you think that is the case? I’m no expert on the Black voting bloc, but my guess would be that many Black people don’t feel Biden or the Democrats are representing their interests. Black people tend to lean pro-life, so that might be a factor. Maybe they don’t think Biden is doing enough to address structural racism. I mean there could be a lot of reasons, right? Isn’t it kind of reductive to say it’s because they think white people are all racist? Trump’s got a lot of white people voting for him too, and he’s white, so why would white racism be any different in that case? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/495 "2023-12-22T20:03:47Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Isn’t it kind of reductive to say it’s because they think white people are all racist? It’s worse than that, PJ insists that it’s all about immigration. Black people want tighter immigration policies. Based on uncitable “Black Media” which I interpret as the voices in PJ’s head. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/496 "2023-12-22T20:04:11Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I mean there could be a lot of reasons, right? Nope, we’ve been assured that it’s because of Biden’s immigration policies. Fucking ninjas!!! ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/497 "2023-12-22T20:04:47Z")
Oh, I came into this late. Thanks for catching me up to speed. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/498 "2023-12-22T20:06:21Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > only new black media is doing Cite required, still. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/499 "2023-12-22T20:12:32Z")
So it doesn’t say what you want? And the next smartest thing you can do is pull it out of your butt? Not gonna work like you think. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/500 "2023-12-22T20:15:27Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > > > only new black media is doing > > Cite required, still. And real black media, none of that mixed media! 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/501 "2023-12-22T20:20:23Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I know you think this is a putdown, but I think it helps me in giving some context. The statues were not all white in their day, they were in color. > > White supremacy whitewashed them so now most people think they were always that way. No, you fool, it wasn’t just a putdown, it was also bait to lure out the crazy in you and boy did you deliver. OK, it was just a putdown. Your being crazy was just an added bonus. I’d ask what fucking statues you are talking about, but I really don’t care what the voices in your head are telling you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=26)