# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/642 "2024-06-30T20:03:23Z")
Nothing, and as I’ve said it’s not so much young Black Americans are going to Trump en-mass. It’s more like the majority are going to sit it out with some percentage going to Trump on immigration. That’s what I’ve been say for months now. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/643 "2024-06-30T20:07:37Z")
Right. A pair of massive, jet fuel-filled airliners smash into the WTC buildings, start a raging hot fire hot enough to weaken steel, and _it’s something else_ that brought the towers down. Obviously. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/644 "2024-06-30T20:10:13Z")
That’s how you are going to respond? I’m not going to give some kind of theory, because as I said at the end of the 911 threads, I don’t know what happened. We do know for sure that the official report is lying to cover peoples asses. Remember Rice saying that they couldn’t conceive of people using airplanes as missiles? Really? That thought never entered her or the strategists mind even though people use regular vehicles as delivery systems all the time. Especially back then, with '93 WTC and Oklahoma City a few years later with trucks. Shit like what she said is a lie, and people see that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/645 "2024-06-30T20:11:22Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > We do know for sure that the official report is lying to cover peoples asses. Remember Rice saying that they couldn’t conceive of people using airplanes as missiles? > > Really? That thought never entered her mind even though people use vehicles as delivery systems all the time. > > Shit like that is a lie, and people see that. Yes, they lied to cover their incompetence. There’s zero evidence that it was anything other than that. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/646 "2024-06-30T20:14:37Z")
But that lie matters, it’s a 20 year lie now that has an effect on people, even people born after that whom are now in their 20’s. Those lies matter. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/647 "2024-06-30T20:18:58Z")
This is part of the reason why Trump can get away with lying on everything during that debate, no one is really talking about his lies. They are used to it now. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/648 "2024-06-30T20:27:15Z")
It’s pretty clear I’m not an idiot, so this doesn’t bother me. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/649 "2024-06-30T20:36:35Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > That’s how you are going to respond? I’m not going to give some kind of theory, because as I said at the end of the 911 threads, I don’t know what happened. Strange. Everyone else does know exactly what happened on 9/11. If you don’t, then you should find out from the wealth of detailed and reliable information available about it and in the meantime shut the fuck up about it. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > We do know for sure that the official report is lying to cover peoples asses. You’re still not telling us what the “lie” is or how you know about it when no one else does. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Remember Rice saying that they couldn’t conceive of people using airplanes as missiles? No, I don’t, because she never said that. What she said was that she didn’t remember any specific strategic warnings about it. But in fact there were. National Security officials were warned during the G8 summit in Genoa in July, 2001 that Islamic terrorists might attempt to crash an airliner into the summit. Rice did lie at various hearings about what intelligence officials knew and didn’t know about about the possibility of the 9/11 attacks. Those lies have been exposed. There’s no secret here, no conspiracy. Most of what US intelligence knew before the attacks, including the infamous Presidential Daily Briefing, is now public knowledge. None of which has anything at all to do with the thoroughly investigated and well known details about everything that happened that day. You keep droning on and on about vague “lies” without ever explaining what the fuck you’re talking about or what that has to do with the established facts about 9/11. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > It’s pretty clear I’m not an idiot That’s not clear at all. Rather the opposite, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/650 "2024-06-30T20:49:23Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > It’s pretty clear I’m not an idiot, so this doesn’t bother me. Drs Dunning and Kruger may want a word. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/651 "2024-06-30T20:53:22Z")
It was in an interview, not to the 911 commission so it’s not on that transcript and not part of the official story, but that’s the point. The lie is the whole official story. Even if you don’t believe what I do, the official story is an obvious cover-up to allow certain people to keep their jobs at the very least which they did. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/652 "2024-06-30T20:59:28Z")
Problem is my knowledge is not limited in the social domain as the polls are proving and why I came back. My intellectual prowess is debatable of course, but far beyond an idiot. So whatever ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/653 "2024-06-30T21:03:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Everybody’s favorite conspiracy theorist, science skeptical, rape-apologizing racist! I love it when I announce someone and they totally live up to it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/654 "2024-06-30T21:05:45Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Problem is my knowledge is not limited in the social domain as the polls are proving and why I came back. I totally called it. > [@Gyrate](#): > > “If we ignore all the evidence that I was wrong, then all the evidence proves I was right and you should all apologize to me!” ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/655 "2024-06-30T21:06:33Z")
Ok here is a cite from CBS news which was hard to find since most of it has be scrubbed. [Condoleezza Rice](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/99-report-warned-of-suicide-hijacking/) She said the same thing on video. Notice the key point, there was a report a few years before that said airplanes could be a possible means of attack. Then she was trying to say they couldn’t even imagine that after it happened. That is a fucking lie. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/656 "2024-06-30T21:07:24Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > My intellectual prowess is debatable of course I wish this could be added to your account as a tagline (or an achievement unlocked). ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/657 "2024-06-30T21:09:23Z")
As I’ve said these kinds of attacks don’t bother me. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/658 "2024-06-30T21:16:19Z")
Well, first you’d have to _understand_ them. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/659 "2024-06-30T21:17:25Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > As I’ve said these kinds of attacks don’t bother me. I’m sure that you’re used to them by now, even if you don’t understand what you’re reading… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/660 "2024-06-30T21:19:49Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Ok here is a cite from CBS news which was hard to find since most of it has be scrubbed.[Condoleezza Rice](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/99-report-warned-of-suicide-hijacking/) > > She said the same thing on video. All of which **is exactly what I just said**. There’s lots of evidence now in the public domain that US officials knew of the possibility of aircraft being used as missiles, and Rice and others knew that and lied about it. Rice also lied about the contents of Presidential Daily Briefing that warned of the attacks, and that information, too, is now known. As I said, no dark secrets, no conspiracy. I still don’t know what the hell your point is. I just have to assume there isn’t one. As I also said, you really are a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/661 "2024-06-30T21:23:27Z")
I actually kind of find it funny and a bit sad that this board believes that anyone involved in US strategy could not conceive of airplanes potentially being used as weapons. Really think about what you are saying just to make me out to be an idiot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=34)