# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/802 "2024-07-22T01:18:42Z")
No that’s not at all what I said, and you know it. It’s more that they are tired of being the democrats rock but still being taken for granted on their issues. They will not accept Harris as another token. I agreed its shortsighted as it will be far worse under Trump maga rule, but they can’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/803 "2024-07-22T01:21:18Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > It’s more that they are tired of being the democrats rock but still being taken for granted on their issues. Not as tired as their gonna be after a long day of doing “black jobs”. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/804 "2024-07-22T01:22:09Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > They will not accept Harris as another token. What the fuck does that even mean??? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/805 "2024-07-22T01:25:48Z")
You can’t say I don’t know shit. I predicted the polls of Black Americans nearly a year ago, not knowing the exact numbers of course. it’s why Trump himself is trying to appeal to the demographic with the “illegals are taking black jobs thing”. If I don’t know shit as you say how did I know that and why is Trump even bringing it up? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/806 "2024-07-22T01:28:02Z")
Predicted polls? Polls vary incredibly widely and if you look hard enough you can find a poll that says almost anything. Call me when you’ve predicted an actual event, like, say, an election. You haven’t predicted shit. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/807 "2024-07-22T01:29:26Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > it’s why Trump himself is trying to appeal to the demographic with the “illegals are taking black jobs thing”. Yes, I hear being a field… person of African decent is much more fulfilling than being a house… person of African decent. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/808 "2024-07-22T01:35:06Z")
Come on, Harris is seen as a token black person at best, playing down her Black roots when it suites her. A proven tool of the establishment that will not address the current issues of the Black zeitgeist. Thats how she is seen today, in 2024, and the polls show it. In the last election she was able to pull it off because a lot of the elder Black people were just happy to see a person of color in the Whitehouse. That demographic is mostly gone now 4 years later, and younger black people have mostly forgotten the lessons of our elders. I’ve already explained all this. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/809 "2024-07-22T01:40:36Z")
Trump botched the message because he is a racist of course, but as I’ve said Black people are not going to Trump in any real number. The point is even the maga leader who is not in power has to address it. Black people are seeing it as we got Biden/Harris elected and they couldn’t even pass a hate law for them. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/810 "2024-07-22T01:50:58Z")
Your guesses aren’t explanations. They’re just crankery from a crank. Like your bullshit about Cosby and 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/811 "2024-07-22T02:05:11Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > You can’t say I don’t know shit. Let’s test that. _You don’t know shit._ Wrong again. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/812 "2024-07-22T02:09:32Z")
Except it’s not a guess, I have the polls finally backing up what I’ve been saying here. The same polls that got the Biden donors so nervous they forced him to withdraw. The board is always saying why would black people allow Trump and maga to regain control, or even worse called me a racist when I was the first one to mention it a year ago. I gave deep insight to this board back then, the fact that it was ignored here doesn’t make it bullshit. In fact, if more people listened to people like me we wouldn’t be in this mess now. We could have dealt with it a year ago or more. And if you all think that we are more likely to win now, then you are all worse than me. True believers that can’t be swayed, even with a cite with the polls. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/813 "2024-07-22T02:20:21Z")
I’ve made no claims. I have guesses, but they’re just guesses, because there’s no solid data in polling or anywhere else that could give us a real solid idea of what’s going to happen. Meanwhile, you’re claiming victory months before an election that has, so far, twisted and turned in ways no one could have predicted. Because you’re a clown. Your certainty doesn’t make you any less clownish. Quite the opposite, in fact. Only a clown could be certain he knows the future, especially after such an awful track record. Come back after the election. All you’re doing now is showing your ass. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/814 "2024-07-22T02:23:14Z")
I know the Democratic party is in total chaos right now, I know many of the donors do not want Harris to be the candidate. I know that you thinking this is a good thing is wishful thinking. I know that if Biden would have chosen a new VP running mate he could have stayed in the race until the election. I know that a woman cannot win a Presidental election in this country in 2024. That you don’t know this is laughable to me. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/815 "2024-07-22T02:29:11Z")
With your record, if you said “I know my ABCs” I would need documentation and an affidavit signed by two witnesses and a Notary Public. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/816 "2024-07-22T02:33:47Z")
You’re simply a fucking joke now. A sad little frightened boy. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/817 "2024-07-22T02:54:28Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m seeing that some posters in that new thread are even admitting that black people don’t like Harris, and don’t see her as black, as I said. I don’t know, if I type “Kamela Harris” in a search engine, it says that she’s black on the first result page. If I try the same thing with “Condoleezza Rice”, I have to get to page 5 or 6 before it says she’s black. Therefore, Harris is blacker than Rice… oh, shit, the internet scrubbers got to that part about Rice too! We really don’t know what happened on 9/11!! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/818 "2024-07-22T08:58:05Z")
Just for giggles, here’s poll suggesting Harris is more popular with young black voters than Biden: > ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/819 "2024-07-22T15:01:45Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I gave deep insight to this board back then, the fact that it was ignored here doesn’t make it bullshit. That’s backwards. It was ignored _because_ it was bullshit. “She not considered Black, so Black voters would prefer a white person who is also not Black, instead of VP Harris, who is not Black. Because she’s not Black.” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/820 "2024-07-22T15:04:35Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I know many of the donors do not want Harris to be the candidate. Well a lot of them sure donated to her campaign yesterday. > **[Kamala Harris’ Monster Fundraising Day Bigger Than Trump’s Felony Charge...](https://dnyuz.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-monster-fundraising-day-bigger-than-trumps-felony-charge-windfall/)** > > Kamala Harris’ dramatic entry into the presidential race triggered a record day of donations for Democrats, who raised nearly $64 > **[Top Hollywood Donors Already Writing Checks, “Excited & Motivated” For...](https://deadline.com/2024/07/hollywood-donors-back-kamala-harris-biden-exit-1236017092/)** > > The exit of POTUS from the 2024 race finds H'wood donors preparing to re-open their checkbooks ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/821 "2024-07-22T16:42:18Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Kamala Harris’ dramatic entry into the presidential race triggered a record day of donations for Democrats, who raised nearly $64 I’m just amused by where Discourse decided to cut off the preview. Way to go Kamala, that’s enough for a fancy lunch at a high end restaurant! 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=42)