# I Pit Split\_p\_j

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/81 "2021-05-28T01:05:15Z")

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Enlighten me

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/82 "2021-05-28T01:06:10Z")

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Not pouring water on a rock.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/83 "2021-05-28T01:08:17Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Enlighten me

Brain surgery hasn’t advanced to that level yet-ask again in fifty years.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/84 "2021-05-28T01:10:55Z")

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And there still won’t be a knockout drug

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/85 "2021-05-28T01:43:28Z")

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So knockout drugs like chloral hydrate don’t exist, and anyone who says otherwise is in on it!

Don’t ask what “it” is because only “they” know all the details.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/86 "2021-05-28T02:01:33Z")

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If it was so obviously impossible, then why didn’t his defense team parade a bunch of anesthesiologists onto the stand as expert witnesses to say so. Case closed sorry for the inconvenience Bill. Although maybe its because they were secretly pressured by Bernard Arnault.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/87 "2021-05-28T02:23:06Z")

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They will, when we have a retrial after we prove that one of the jurors once lied to his 5th grade teacher.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/88 "2021-05-28T08:22:32Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Who exactly do you think comprise “The Top”?

Top. Men.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/89 "2021-06-30T18:19:09Z")

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Looks like Bill Cosby will be getting out of prison his conviction has been [overturned.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bill-cosby-sex-assault-conviction-163915409.html)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/90 "2021-06-30T18:38:38Z")

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> [@They're letting Bill Cosby out of prison](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-letting-bill-cosby-out-of-prison/945343/2):
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> The conviction has been overturned, but he was still found guilty by a jury of his peers, so this is a weak at best vindication.

&nbsp;

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/91 "2021-06-30T18:49:07Z")

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Found guilty based on testimony that should have never been allowed. They had no case so they brought in other people to say yeah he did that to me too.

I always knew it was all bullshit.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/92 "2021-06-30T18:53:15Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I always knew it was all bullshit.

What’s all bullshit? Are you claiming he’s factually innocent?

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/93 "2021-06-30T19:00:49Z")

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I’ve said all along I don’t think he raped women. The whole knockout drug thing is nonsense, based on his comedy about Spanish Fly. You can’t, as I’ve said over and over, give people drugs like that with out some of them dying. Everyone responds differently to dosage.

The women willing had sex with Cosby, expecting a powerful man in show business would be able to do something for them.

They were disappointed for what ever reason and sought revenge. It’s as simple as that.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/94 "2021-06-30T19:07:34Z")

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I…see. Well, enjoy your day!

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/95 "2021-06-30T19:08:24Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Found guilty based on testimony that should have never been allowed. They had no case so they brought in other people to say yeah he did that to me too.

That’s not what this court decision says.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/96 "2021-06-30T19:13:48Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I always knew it was all bullshit.

So you decided to post nothing but bullshit in retaliation?  
Well played!

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/97 "2021-06-30T19:23:17Z")

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The article has been changed from what I read and linked to. It now says the point was moot since he shouldn’t have been charged in the first place. Previously it said it was illegal under PA law to bring in other accusers like that.

That’s one thing I hate about this electronic age, things can be changed. At least the article confirms they edited it at the end.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/98 "2021-06-30T19:24:29Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Found guilty based on testimony that should have never been allowed.

You don’t think victims should be allowed to testify? Is that a general principle or is it a rule specifically for this case?

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/99 "2021-06-30T19:27:46Z")

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Well it seems to me there is a good reason why PA law doesn’t allow it except in very specific situations. The original article listed those situations. None of them applied to Cosby.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/100 "2021-06-30T19:34:05Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> You don’t think victims should be allowed to testify? Is that a general principle or is it a rule specifically for this case?

The question is about other victims, and I find it a thorny one. On the one hand, knowing about a pattern of behavior is important. On the other hand, he wasn’t convicted of those other offenses (due to the statute of limitations) so not sure they should have been admitted?

For the record, I think he was guilty as sin and it is unfortunate that he has been released (although the legally correct decision).

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