# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/982 "2024-08-02T01:47:03Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Your 50k view threshold number is made up No, it was made by looking at the last year of that particular YouTuber and choosing a high, but fairly representative, average number of views per video. > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > @crowmanyclouds’ point, as I understand it, is that that particular YouTuber doesn’t have a large subscriber base, and doesn’t get many views. No, the claim was the the sub count was somehow indicative of the actual number of a multi-generational group of Black men who are; racist (against immigrants) racist (in declaring that there are ‘pure blood’ African Americans who can trace all of there ancestors directly, and only, to Africa) and misogynists. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/983 "2024-08-02T01:49:12Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > No fuck you. You imply, I infer Exactly! You are inferring what I am in no way implying! Unless, of course, you are able to read minds in addition to words. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/984 "2024-08-02T01:53:18Z")
You implied my links were not valid. I inferred my response. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/985 "2024-08-02T01:54:28Z")
[Here](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imply) you totally tried to indirectly say my links were not valid by bring up they could be bought ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/986 "2024-08-02T01:55:08Z")
No, I didn’t. I pointed out that sub numbers are not a reliable indicator of the thing that you were _trying to prove_. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/987 "2024-08-02T01:57:49Z")
I inferred your meaning as seen [here](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infer) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/988 "2024-08-02T02:02:10Z")
I infer from your posts like you enjoy fucking sheep, therefore I am entirely justified to state that you are a sheep fucker. That’s how it works, correct? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/989 "2024-08-02T02:06:03Z")
I guess if it makes you feel better, but you can also just admit I just fucked you up. My advice is don’t listen to my detractors on this board. The world has left them behind. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/990 "2024-08-02T02:09:39Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > you can also just admit I just fucked you up. I would . . . but, sadly for you, I am not an even-toed ungulate of the genus Ovis. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/991 "2024-08-02T02:34:33Z")
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/992 "2024-08-02T02:39:18Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > > > I shouldn’t respond to this but here is his quote. > > You’re welcome! > > > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > > > He doesn’t come right out and say my links are bots but says they could be bought subs. > > If I wanted to say “bots” and not “bought subs” I’d have fucking said it. > Stop putting your fucking words in other peoples mouths. Forgive my ignorance, and educate me please. ISTM that if a sub is available for purchase, it’s indistinguishable from a bot, even if it’s a bot that’s entirely passive and exists solely to inflate subscriber count, and thus perceived popularity. Or is it more like generating multiple sock puppets that don’t do anything but increase headcount? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/993 "2024-08-02T02:43:51Z")
Things like this site, > **[Buy YouTube Subscribers India - SMM Owl](https://smmowl.com/buy-youtube-subscribers/)** > > SMM Owl is the trusted site to buy YouTube subscribers India. It provides high quality YouTube subscribers which help you to engage your audience toward your channel. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/994 "2024-08-02T02:50:22Z")
Yeah, you basically get subscriptions from abandoned, idle accounts. So it looks like you have a lot of people interested in your channel that aren’t. It’s the digital equivalent of filling a stadium full of cardboard cutouts then claiming you sold it out for your performance. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/995 "2024-08-02T02:57:45Z")
I of course totally disagree with this as witnessed by former YouTube stars such as the amazing atheist. He didn’t keep his over 1 million subs number as he fell off on YouTube. The platform itself promotes sub count, not views, as the metric. You don’t get the 100K plaque just because one of your videos had a million views when you only have 1000 subs. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/996 "2024-08-02T05:59:32Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I of course totally disagree with this as witnessed by former YouTube stars such as the amazing atheist. > > He didn’t keep his over 1 million subs number as he fell off on YouTube. The platform itself promotes sub count, not views, as the metric. What on earth are you babbling about now? People lose sub counts when people unsubscribe from them when they lose relevance and stop producing content that interests people. Big shocker. YouTube absolutely does not promote sub counts as a metric; it only cares about the number of views being received. The algorithm pushes those who produce consistent content that is highly viewed. It doesn’t promote those with low view counts, regardless of their subscription numbers. Amazing atheist still has 954,000 subs because he was relevant on YouTube once and a lot of people are too lazy to unsub from channels they haven’t watched in years. What matters is view count. Nothing he’s put out in the last month has broken 25,000 views. His view counts over the last year run from ~6,000-35,000 with I’d guesstimate ~10-12k as an average. He is, as far as YouTube is concerned, irrelevant. His sub count means nothing. Relatively nobody cares about him anymore, his 15 minutes of fame ended a long time ago. Ally Hills is more relevant, and she was barely producing content starting 3 years ago, and stopped entirely 2 years ago. She also lost her over 1 million sub count, and is now at 953,000 subs. The difference is she was routinely exceeding 100,000 views on her ‘poorly’ viewed videos, and 749,000 on her most viewed during that time period. As an aside, you can also game the system with YouTube to get high sub counts with low actual viewership. Putting out a lot of shorts did/still does that to some extent because YouTube promotes them so heavily to try to break into the TikTok market. In the VTuber scene, Idol EN was notorious for doing this, as is the indie Punkalopi. Punkalopi barely streams, rarely breaks 10k views on streams, but has 613,000 subscribers. Idol EN’s top talent was Rin Penrose, who only runs ~10-20k views per stream but has 739,000 subscriptions. By way of contrast, Dokibird who is an indie has 757,000 subscribers but even her poorly performing streams bury those viewer numbers, her well performing ones will break 100,000 views and special events push 500,000 views. Now pardon me while I scrub my YouTube search history of amazing athiest. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/997 "2024-08-02T10:02:54Z")
Must say that I am strangely enjoying the Pittee’s repeated claims of _not_ punching himself in the dick, even as we watch him do it. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/998 "2024-08-02T10:40:11Z")
That’s not how YouTube measures dick-punching, so you’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/999 "2024-08-02T11:06:45Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > There are plenty of huge youtubers that do not take your advertising dollars you fucking hack, you have no say in the new media. > > Don’t try to pretend that you are some kind of authority now. I work with marketers and advertisers, and I can tell you they use Google analytics tools to excruciating detail. They will change marketing strategies on the fly if they find downward trends, and it has nothing to do with their ages or personal tastes. Kenobi relies on data that has financial impact, and would certainly know the disparity between subscriber count and views firsthand. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1000 "2024-08-02T12:59:55Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Biden won some states in 2020 only by like 10,000 votes, a half a percent loss in the vote is a huge number in those states. And that is just **assuming the baseline numbers are the same**. The other baseline numbers are shifting under Trump’s feet – that is, Harris’ and Trump’s coalitions are realigning somewhat. In the balance, it seems acceptable for Harris to not get some percentage of Black male voters that were more or less ungettable from jump (e.g. followers of conservative Black YouTubers). Meanwhile, Trump is losing from another assumed-safe cohort per _**[The New Republic](https://newrepublic.com/post/184335/trump-picked-jd-vance-fear-support-white-men)**_: > Former President Donald Trump has a serious problem with white men: They don’t want to vote for him. At least, not the way they did in 2016. > > … > > In April, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that the demographics that historically supported Trump have begun to shift and the groundswell of support from white male voters that Trump had experienced in 2016 was dissipating. > > … > > Things only got worse from there. According to NPR, between 2020 and 2024, Biden saw a 24-point bump among white men with college degrees, a group that has historically backed Republicans. > > Trump has begun to experience a slip in swing states, as well. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1001 "2024-08-02T15:51:35Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > > > That’s how you are going to respond? I’m not going to give some kind of theory, because as I said at the end of the 911 threads, I don’t know what happened. > > Strange. Everyone else does know exactly what happened on 9/11. If you don’t, then you should find out from the wealth of detailed and reliable information available about it and in the meantime shut the fuck up about it. oh, 9/11! I thought you were talking about some controversy with 911, the emergency phone number, and had no idea what the fuck you were saying. I suspect some of the responses you got were from similarly confused people. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > You know I mean Rice, that is the she I’m referring to. I misread that, too, and thought you were referring to Wolfpup. You might have some issues with clarity of your posting, that aren’t doing you any favors. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=51)