# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1122 "2024-08-04T01:28:45Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > 40 years later it’s easy to post the lyrics out of context to prove a point. Even easier to not post the lyrics and provide unsupported context to try to prove a point. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1123 "2024-08-04T01:34:52Z")
Ok so that is my fault. I just assumed that it was known that Public Enemy was a political hip-hop group that basically help start the political hip-hop protest music movement. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1124 "2024-08-04T01:38:16Z")
So, instead of providing the lyrics in question you’re going with a replay of ‘Y’all are too old and too white to understand’? Let me help you again, > **[Public Enemy – Raise the Roof](https://genius.com/Public-enemy-raise-the-roof-lyrics)** > > \[Intro: Chuck D\] / Testing, one-two / Testing, one-two / The house is now on fire / Spread the walls y'all / Everybody get somebody we don't want anybody let fuck nobody / 'Cause > **[Public Enemy – She Watch Channel Zero?!](https://genius.com/Public-enemy-she-watch-channel-zero-lyrics)** > > In this update of Gil Scott-Heron’s “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised,” Chuck and Flav warn against the dangers of watching too many soap operas and becoming brainwashed by ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1125 "2024-08-04T01:41:59Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > No, I always took the albums as a metaphor of a journey. > > First album they are just regular dudes driving in an old model Oldsmobile." Your Gonna Get Yours". They are just chilling in the ride having fun. For younger people when Chuck D is rapping about his 98 Oldsmobile that is a model of car not a year. It was a hooptie. > > … Hang on – roll all this back. Recall why you mentioned Public Enemy in the first place. In any of this … is your point about the AKA sorority (_they were systematically rejecting dark-skinned pledges circa 1986 at Howard_) backed up? You’re not tying stuff together. It’s “_Over here! AKA was bigoted against darked-skin women while Kamala was pledging! To the point they couldn’t join!_” and then “_Over there! Public Enemy rapped about AKA’s bigotted practices!_” and then “_Over here again! Public Enemy was rapping with a social conscience way back when!_” I mean, the car’s careening all over the place. Jumping curbs. Hitting mailboxes, lampposts, pedestrians. There’s no hands on the wheel. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1126 "2024-08-04T01:50:48Z")
I’m not going to be able to provide that, because they would have never said it directly. It’s art and my take could be wrong. I’m saying that the fact that Harris is an AKA may not be a positive in the way it’s being portrayed in the media. And that the demographic Trump is aiming for could be swayed to that message. The Trump team’s line of attack is based on real data and could be a problem for Harris. I’m really saying that Trump is being well advised. I know you think you ‘won’ now, but it remains to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1127 "2024-08-04T01:52:19Z")
I’m beginning to see why the guest of honor moved to the Pit, because in most other forums, especially P&E, he’d be falling very quickly into the Bad Faith Argument and Tactics and the sort of hostility (for perfectly accurate questioning) that got Sliced\_Alone in trouble. Which I’m _positive_ is what SPJ is referring to when it comes to “unpopular viewpoints” being banned. No, bad faith actions and arguments, as well as hostile behavior when questioned gets _less_ tolerance. Oh noes. This is my shocked face. 😲 Well, not that shocked. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1128 "2024-08-04T01:57:50Z")
Ok, with your links I hope to be able to show that it’s not me saying this, or that is just my feelings. Right now, I will admit, I cannot directly link to Sirius shows that back me on this live on air. I gave timestamps so anyone with Sirius can look at the Progress Channel to the hosts and timestamps I said. You all win for now. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1129 "2024-08-04T02:05:53Z")
That is fine, and you can put up all the happy faces you want. I can’t link to some things right now, so it’s dismissed here. It only really shows how out of touch this format is. I think right now I put the information out and gave timestamps. Anyone with a cell phone and Sirius/XM radio can go and hear it for themselves. I will try to find a way to link the audio directly to here, but in the meantime yes pile on if it makes you feel better. Just remember that the Trump camp is going after a demographic that could cost Harris the election. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1130 "2024-08-04T02:06:35Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Ok, with your links I hope to be able to show that it’s not me saying this, or that is just my feelings. Are you going to get that no matter how many people (that are not a part of the Trump campaign) agree with your hypothesis it is not evidence that your hypothesis is correct? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1131 "2024-08-04T02:08:02Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > > > Yes, to the point that the sisters would not allow them to join. I can only imagine what the women in that '86 picture had to endure to be able to join. > > Imagine, indeed. Either you know what _those particular women_ – at Howard, rushing AKA in 1986 – had to endure to be able to join and can bring receipts, or you don’t know and are speaking off the cuff. You are very kind. He’s spewing complete bullshit that he’s making up as he goes along. As usual. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1132 "2024-08-04T02:10:05Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’m not going to be able to provide that, because they would have never said it directly. It’s art and my take could be wrong. Translation: “I am just making up shit as I go, and you people are all mean for doubting my make-believe stories.” ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1133 "2024-08-04T02:10:42Z")
No, I don’t get that. I see a clear strategy here; the only question is if it will work. This board was dumbfounded as to what Trump was trying to do. I explained what was happening and why. I make no claim as to if it will work or not. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1134 "2024-08-04T02:11:05Z")
He is smart in laying into the fact that this place drove off all of the other black posters over the last decade or so. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1135 "2024-08-04T02:12:01Z")
That is not what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1136 "2024-08-04T02:14:11Z")
If I’m just making things up how do you explain the Trump team’s actions? They basically align to everything I’ve been trying to warn this board about for over a year now. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1137 "2024-08-04T02:16:19Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > No, I don’t get that. I have an hypothesis, John Wilkes Booth shot John F. Kennedy in Ford’s theatre in Dallas, Vermont. I provide you with comments from 5,368 people stating that they agree that John Wilkes Booth shot John F. Kennedy in Ford’s theatre in Dallas, Vermont. Have I in any way proved my hypothesis? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1138 "2024-08-04T02:18:07Z")
You do realize you’re just throwing red meat to a 9/11 truther? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1139 "2024-08-04T02:18:40Z")
Oh yes, my people have learned much from cats! ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1140 "2024-08-04T02:23:59Z")
I don’t really know what you are trying to say here. The Trump team is basically doing everything I said over a year ago. I don’t have a hypothesis; I’m trying to explain to this board what is happening in real time or even before things happen. In the thread I’m banned from they are still scratching their heads saying what Is Trump trying to do here, I just looked at it. Like children. Meanwhile everyone else gets it, it’s really only a question if it will work and that is of course unknown. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1141 "2024-08-04T02:25:51Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I don’t really know what you are trying to say here. Then let’s try another one!!! If everyone on this board thinks you are a troll does that mean you are, in fact, a troll? If you want to end this thread and stuff, you got to post loud. Could put a lot—I’ve been posting in this thread now for one hundred and twenty five posts. I could post in it for another one hundred and twenty five posts. I’m not proud. Or tired. So we’ll wait till it comes around again, and this time with four-part harmony and feeling. We’re just waiting for it to come around is what we’re doing.‎ All right now.‎ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=56) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=58)