# I Pit Split\_p\_j

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1142 "2024-08-04T02:27:44Z")

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No, because we are all one hive mind!

Split personality contains multitudes!

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1143 "2024-08-04T02:28:53Z")

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I’m pretty far from a troll and I think that is obvious. You only call yourself out by trying to reduce me to that level.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1144 "2024-08-04T02:32:42Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I think

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1145 "2024-08-04T02:35:05Z")

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She is all over the Progress channel, no one really follows print media now as I’ve said. That is one of the blind spots of this board.

This board is self-selecting when they should be trying to adapt to the changes. The pool of posters has shrunk and will continue to shrink as any new poster is attacked.

Zero chance this board makes it another 3 years.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1146 "2024-08-04T02:37:05Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Zero chance this board makes it another 3 years.

I have two YouTube channels, one book, and four podcasters that say different so, clearly, you are wrong!

I didn’t include the three song lyrics since I didn’t want to overwhelm you with evidence.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1147 "2024-08-04T02:38:56Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> If I’m just making things up how do you explain the Trump team’s actions? They basically align to everything I’ve been trying to warn this board about for over a year now…

Perhaps you are simply part of Trump’s team.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1148 "2024-08-04T02:41:35Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> No, I don’t get that. I see a clear strategy here; the only question is if it will work.
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> This board was dumbfounded as to what Trump was trying to do. I explained what was happening and why.
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> I make no claim as to if it will work or not.

As I said, it could… If there was just that stupid and racist attack from Trump, but the reality is that the few YouTubers posting that Trump “won” (how come he can win when it was not a debate?) are willfully ignoring many other racist and old fogey things Trump did say then.

Again, this assumption that this is a tactic that may work would be somehow plausible if that was just what Trump talked about, but that was not just that.

> **[Incredulous laughter, audible gasps: Trump’s performance at Black...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/31/trump-nabj-black-journalists-chicago)**
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> The former president snapped and snarled through his interview – and looked for all the world like an old crank

> When Trump finally did take the stage, he played the hits – vowing (again) to close the border, cut inflation (how?) and “drill, baby, drill”. Pitted against the three-woman interview team that also included Semafor’s Kadia Goba and Fox News’s Harris Faulkner, he reserved all of his invective for the “rude” Scott – who seemed unhappy at having to go through with this farce and stood firm in the face of increasing attacks.
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> When she cut Trump off mid-digression in hopes of pivoting to another question before time ran out, Trump snapped: “You’re the one who held me up!” In their back and forth, Trump seemed to have another Black woman in his sights. He might have spent more time directing his attacks at Harris if he wasn’t still so fixated on beating up on Joe Biden for being old; never mind that all his complaining about not being able to hear the questions on stage made him look even older in those moments. After about 35 minutes, thankfully, it was over.
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> In theory, being interrogated by three Black women should have worked against Trump. Doubtless his many supporters will take his performance as confirmation of his fitness for the fight against Harris. But for the many in the room who could see past the bluster, Trump looked for all the world like an old crank who can barely hear or have a thought without somehow making it racist. Asked by Goba how he’d know if he was too old to stay in the job, Trump didn’t hesitate to take another shot at Scott. “Look, if I came on stage and got treated so rudely as _this_ woman,” he said, still smarting from her pointed line of questioning. _That_ was the payoff the NABJ had hoped for, and Trump never looked more exposed.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1149 "2024-08-04T02:43:02Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> If I’m just making things up how do you explain the Trump team’s actions? They basically align to everything I’ve been trying to warn this board about for over a year now…

Okay. We’ve been warned. Mission accomplished I guess. What’s next?

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1150 "2024-08-04T02:43:39Z")

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You are witty with the replies, I like that actually. I wait until tomorrow when the people that have Sirius/XM look at my timestamps and hear it themselves.

I wish I could post them in the main thread, but I think the word will still get out.

You will be the first one that will have to apologize.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1151 "2024-08-04T02:47:16Z")

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Why are you asking me what’s next? We will have to wait until election day to see the actual numbers.

I’ve already said that I think Trump messed up the advice he was given, but they made a play.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1152 "2024-08-04T02:47:21Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> You will be the first one that will have to apologize.

Apologize for what?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1153 "2024-08-04T02:47:37Z")

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An underwhelming point to make when some black youtubers you used as evidence are clearly willfully ignoring the racism that they are condoning when supporting Trump.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1154 "2024-08-04T02:49:07Z")

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You are going to have to admit that I am right on my takes on the election, that I didn’t just make it up.

That real people are backing up most of what I’ve tried to say here.

You will have to eat all of your clever words.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1155 "2024-08-04T02:52:29Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> You will have to eat all of your clever words.

Dude, no one has posted a single recipe in response to your trolling, DO NOT TEMPT THEM!!!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1156 "2024-08-04T02:53:28Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> That real people are backing up most of what I’ve tried to say here.

What you said so far is that one of those does doubt that it will work. As I said, it is less likely to work when one considers all the other racist things Trump came up with in that panel interview.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1157 "2024-08-04T02:55:20Z")

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I know, the board picks and chooses which YouTube they like, and I think that others can clearly see that.

I am now backing it with Sirius/XM timestamps of well-known people speaking on radio, not typing. Dean is also goes on all the TV networks.

Is that good enough?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1158 "2024-08-04T02:57:07Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Is that good enough?

Do you have a single person from the Trump campaign saying it? That’s what is required here.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1159 "2024-08-04T03:02:23Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I know, the board picks and chooses which YouTube they like, and I think that others can clearly see that.

Nope, that the facts are that Trump did said other racist things and then some YouTubers ignore that so they can continue to support Trump, is evidence that they are not deserving of any attention. They are are really just monumental tools.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1160 "2024-08-04T03:07:13Z")

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Is the debate about whether Trump is a stupid fucking racist or a clever fuckkng racist?

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1161 "2024-08-04T03:08:03Z")

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This is where you are wrong, and we are going by the last Presidential election since those are the only numbers we have. Thanks for this, I understand why this board is having a hard time wrapping their head around this.

Trumps messages resonate with at least 10% of 18-35, maybe up too 40-year-old black men. They don’t see him as being racist against them.

A lot of them that will actually vote are ex-military, as well. The elders are gone now, I’m an elder now, and if they even really knew them at all, the old stories are lost.

It is a generational change within in the black community and at least 10% of then are leaning maga.

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