# I Pit Split\_p\_j

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1182 "2024-08-04T03:58:55Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> that’s not what he is being advised to say not.

And you know this how exactly?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1183 "2024-08-04T04:01:51Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> 've gone into this before he even started trying to say it over a year ago. he’s being coached on all this but he fucks it up.
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> Once again, I know the board doesn’t like it but it’s time to put the big-boy pants on and deal with it.

If he was not fucking up and Biden was the Democratic candidate it could be, but those “big-boy pants” are actually very small by your own words when pointing out that yes, Trump is fucking up…

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1184 "2024-08-04T04:04:56Z")

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I explained already, he is being given being talking points as I’ve outlined over a year ago. This is not some big surprise. None of his advisers are telling him to go out there and say black jobs that’s all him confusing his prep.

He’s doing his normal Trump shtick trying to find catch words that work.

No 4D chess involved.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1185 "2024-08-04T04:06:47Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I explained already, he is being given being talking points as I’ve outlined over a year ago.

You explained your claim or you provided evidence for your claim?

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1186 "2024-08-04T04:09:25Z")

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Well of course, they were not expecting that Biden would actually give up the nomination, so right now of course they are following the old playbook.

The numbers right now say it could still work, that it’s still going to come down to a few votes in the swing states they expected.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1187 "2024-08-04T04:12:03Z")

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Fuck, the fact that the Trump campaign is following an outline that I, some random fuck on some dying message board, walked though years ago, proves my claims.

It’s totally obvious to everyone what he is trying to do, except here.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1188 "2024-08-04T04:12:32Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> The numbers right now say it could still work, that it’s still going to come down to a few votes in the swing states they expected.

Stay abreast — those numbers are changing rapidly. Harris has a lot more slack in the line than Biden did.

EDIT: I need to offer a cite.

> **[Harris vs. Trump Polls: Kamala’s Gains Are Now a Trend, Not Just a Bounce](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/harris-vs-trump-polls-kamalas-gains-are-now-a-trend.html)**
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> The polls are showing steady gains across the board for the new Democratic nominee, though it remains a very close race.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1189 "2024-08-04T04:14:56Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Fuck, the fact that the Trump campaign is following an outline that I, some random fuck on some dying message board, walked though years ago, proves my claims.

Annd we’re back to, my claim that you fuck sheep is proof that you fuck sheep.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1190 "2024-08-04T04:16:04Z")

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Even I had to admit that her numbers were impressive, but remember she needs to up at least +5 in national polls to offset the Republican’s electoral college advantage.

I don’t think she is there yet.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1191 "2024-08-04T04:19:18Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> The numbers right now say it could still work, that it’s still going to come down to a few votes in the swing states they expected.

What I notice is that it could still work, but it is more likely to work if the ones that could reach those who are being misguided do not bother to tell them to stop falling for that tactic.

**You know what to do.**

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1192 "2024-08-04T04:21:08Z")

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No we are not there. You are claiming I’m a troll that is just making things up. You are totally denying that I had some insight as to what may happen and in fact has happened.

The Trump campaign is trying to take the exact tract I spoke of over a year ago in the Should Biden Pick a new VP thread that I was also banned from.

How do you explain that?

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1193 "2024-08-04T04:25:33Z")

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I’m trying, but the youngest black people I know are my three nieces and some of their circle. So all late 20’s to early 30’s.

Thier male friends could totally vote for Trump with no problem judging from talking to them.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1194 "2024-08-04T04:26:11Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> The Trump campaign is trying to take the exact tract I spoke of over a year ago in the Should Biden Pick a new VP thread that I was also banned from.
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> How do you explain that?

And if you were correct, then there should had been no improvement in the polls after Harris got the nod.

Wrong again.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1195 "2024-08-04T04:29:29Z")

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The national polls have not changed that much, most pundits I see say that she has broght it back to a tie. So, I guess she was able to stop the downward trend.

But basically, it’s back to where it was before the debate disaster. We need to see Harris up +5 in the national polls and you know this.

If we don’t see her up at least 5 points, then it’s going to be a slog and a few thousand votes here and there in the swing states will determine the election.

The Trump campaign is going after those votes.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1196 "2024-08-04T06:20:10Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I’m not pulling stuff out of my ass.

You certainly pulled stuff out of your butt regarding September 11, 2001.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1197 "2024-08-04T09:27:08Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> But basically, it’s back to where it was before the debate disaster. We need to see Harris up +5 in the national polls and you know this.

But basically you were wrong, no matter how much you repeat this.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1198 "2024-08-04T19:10:17Z")

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> **['You just repeated the slur:' Stephanopoulos presses Trump ally on Harris...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/04/stephanopoulos-presses-trump-ally-donalds-harris-race/74665209007/)**
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> Trump is attempting to use Kamala Harris' biracial identity as a campaign weapon, and ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos isn't having it.

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> Donalds continued to slyly sow doubt around Harris’ identity on Stephanopoulos’ show, saying that many “people” are still questioning it.
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> “This is actually a conversation throughout social media right now, there are a lot of people who are trying to figure this out,” he said. “But that’s a side issue, not the main issue.”

I think we found our guy!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1199 "2024-08-05T00:46:42Z")

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“People are saying”

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1200 "2024-08-05T04:11:42Z")

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Trump’s team had a clever strategy and knew exactly what they were doing to try to turn young Black men against Kamala.

> **[How two topsy-turvy weeks upended Trump’s 2024 campaign | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/04/politics/donald-trump-campaign-topsy-turvy/index.html)**
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> A 17-day stretch with few parallels in American history has upended what looked to Donald Trump’s campaign like a clear path to victory when the former president stepped on the Republican convention stage in Milwaukee.

> Trump surprised allies and even some campaign staffers when he announced he would take the stage at the NABJ conference in Chicago.

Uh, hmm. Well, they were sure he knew what he was doing.

> “This event, more than anything he has done in months, has the most potential to go sideways,” a source close to Trump told CNN before the former president took the stage.
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> It did, immediately.

Well, shit. Still, I’m sure it was all part of the plan.

> In addition to igniting controversy reminiscent of his 2016 campaign, Trump’s comments also undercut his campaign’s efforts to focus on Harris’ immigration record – which included a multimillion-dollar ad buy in six battleground states.
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> Prior to his NABJ remarks, Trump’s campaign had sought to distance itself from racially incendiary comments about Harris, including those from GOP lawmakers referring to the vice president as a “DEI hire” – the acronym for diversity, equity and inclusion.

I mean, his campaign had it planned I’m sure.

> “I don’t know if it’s off limits, but it’s not something that we’ve done. So, it’s not even on our radar,” campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung told reporters in North Carolina.

Oh, well, at least it hasn’t caused any problems with Republicans or Trump’s allies in general. It’s only the silly left in a tizzy after that nothingburger of an interview.

> The messaging made several Republicans who spoke to CNN uncomfortable – and many said they hoped it would not become a lasting part of the campaign’s talking points.
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> “He’s never going to back down now – he can’t admit he was wrong. You’re going to see them double, triple down now,” one source close to Trump said.

That doesn’t sound good for Trump.

> The consultant close to Trump’s campaign said it was a mistake for him to have veered off into an attack on Harris’ racial identity at the NABJ convention.
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> It happened, the person said, because the journalists’ questions “pissed him off, and he’s still Donald Trump.”
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> On Capitol Hill, many Republicans – including longtime Trump allies – were critical of the former president’s comments.

Maybe this really _was_ bad for Trump?

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1201 "2024-08-05T07:26:41Z")

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Nonsense, TFG is playing 5D chess. He’s just making doubly sure he loses the election so he can claim of election was rigged. Oh, wait that doesn’t make sense, he’s been claiming election fraud in every election he’s been in before the voting even started. Even the 2016 election he won.

Well, it at least makes as much sense as anything @split_p_j has been saying.

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