# I Pit Split\_p\_j **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1202 "2024-08-05T19:22:19Z")
From [Morning Joe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN-e4oEN4SM) this morning. Harris has made up a decent percent of the black vote, up to 81% compared to Bidens 73%. That is encouraging, however that is still down 9 percent from what Biden won with in '20 and well within the estimate of Eleanor Clift’s number of around 10% of the black vote that could be swayed by Trump’s message. Once again that doesn’t mean that 10% would vote for Trump. The hosts even admit that she cannot win if she is not polling at least 90% among black voters. You can all try to dismiss me if that makes you feel better, but it’s clear that this board has some huge blind spots and is out of touch on some issues. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1203 "2024-08-05T21:53:03Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > The hosts even admit that she cannot win if she is not polling at least 90% among black voters. The entire 11 minute clip, start to finish, is equivocal at worst. Actually, seems more pro-Harris to me than anything. > **4:05 - MSNBC national affairs analyst John Heileman:** “_I’ll just say that there’s no one on the Harris campaign that doesn’t realize that those are categories where they need to ride the momentum, the rise she’s had, and try to get her back to Joe Biden’s level of 2020 if she’s going to be able to win the election in November_.” > > **4:53 - _Washington Post_ columnist Eugene Robinson:** “_This just in – she is_ going _to match Biden’s numbers among African-American voters. I mean, I am sure of that_.” > > **5:37 - Robinson:** “… _She’s been a candidate for all of two weeks, right? Let it sink in, at least another few weeks. It’s clear what direction she’s headed_.” No one’s throwing dirt on Harris’ campaign in that video. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1204 "2024-08-05T21:55:22Z")
People, wake up! If she doesn’t get enough votes she won’t win! Trump is trying to get her votes. Why doesn’t anyone see this? Don’t say I didn’t warn you. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1205 "2024-08-05T22:06:01Z")
And what does that have to do with anything I’ve been saying for over a year now? I’m on team Harris, just like I was for Biden. I’m not trying to throw dirt on her campaign. I’ve been trying to explain the reason why Biden’s numbers got as low as 73% to this board. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1206 "2024-08-05T22:08:45Z")
You are mocking me, but this board seems to have a hard time understanding why the democrat’s polling numbers among black voters fell to as low as 73% according to MSNBC. You are attacking me again and not seeing what is actually happening. Her numbers are better than Biden’s but only up 7% so as I said it’s encouraging but her numbers with black voters need to be in the 90’s right now. There are only three months left to the election. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1207 "2024-08-05T22:11:54Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > You are mocking me, but this board seems to have a hard time understanding why the democrat’s polling numbers among black voters fell to as low as 73% according to MSNBC. Everyone complains about the weather, but no one ever seems to do anything about it. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1208 "2024-08-05T22:12:57Z")
They laughed at Gallileo. They also laughed at Bozo The Clown. You are not a misunderstood visionary preaching truth to people who are blind to it. You are a poor debater, who cannot find or post decent cites. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1209 "2024-08-05T22:16:23Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > but this board seems to have a hard time understanding why the democrat’s polling numbers among black voters fell to as low as 73% according to MSNBC. Explain it to us again! ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1210 "2024-08-05T22:20:21Z")
I actually will admit to some of that. I do provide cites however that back up that I’m not just making things up. The polls which you are worship are a cite, I linked directly to MSNBC. biden was down to 73% of the black vote. No one on this board seems to understand why the numbers are so low for the democrats among black voters. I am not claiming to be some kind of visionary, I just understand why the numbers are not good and why. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1211 "2024-08-05T22:21:58Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I do provide cites however that back up that I’m not just making things up. No, you don’t. The cites you provide never seem to say what you claim and are often barely connected them. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1212 "2024-08-05T22:24:51Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I am not claiming to be some kind of visionary, I just understand why the numbers are anot good and why. Do you have suggestions to the Harris campaign to improve those numbers? Here’s a cite: > A new Howard University poll of Black voters from the end of July found more than 90 % intend to vote for Harris, a big jump compared to the 59% who said they planned to vote for Biden in their March survey. [Black voter reaction to historic nomination of Kamala Harris (kcra.com)](https://www.kcra.com/article/black-voter-support-appears-to-rebound-with-historic-nomination-of-kamala-harris/61784252) ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1213 "2024-08-05T22:24:55Z")
go back to the latest thread I was banned from. They are still saying “I don’t understand” on that thread. I just gave you the numbers form MSNBC, you cannot question that cite. Why is Harris only at 81% when normally it would 90%+"? I have given reason as to why. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1214 "2024-08-05T22:25:05Z")
What are you saying? He’s proved 9/11 was an inside job by linking to a yahoo search on the term “Condoleezza Rice”! Wake up sheeple! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1215 "2024-08-05T22:25:34Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > No one on this board seems to understand why the numbers are so low for the democrats among black voters. No, we’ve clearly heard you, Blacks are racists and misogynists and too stupid to realize that electing Democrats is not instantly going to get them a reparations check. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1216 "2024-08-05T22:27:14Z")
Tell me? Do have any reading comprehension at all? ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1217 "2024-08-05T22:32:51Z")
Well yes that is part of it, there is always a percentage of any population that are racist and misogynist. Inflation has something to do with it as well, as shortsighted as it is. This element definitely exists in the black community and is showing in the polls. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c13a0kU4m-Y) is another youtuber trying to explain why these views are shortsighted. He has 187K views of this video with 133K subs, if that pleases the advertisers among us. He acknowledges the mindset exists and tries to explain how wrong they are but just look at some of the comments. It’s not me saying it, the mindset is well known. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1218 "2024-08-05T22:43:23Z")
I know I’m posting links from youtube with views of 100k here, 40K there, but that is how things are in the internet age, I think that is the main part lost on this board that is a throwback to 20 years ago. I think this board is scared and trying to create its own bubble. I disrupt the bubble now and so the board is trying to be expel me like a virus, as they’ve done to many others. All the while they say, “I don’t understand”. Well of course you don’t because anyone with a different perspective have slowly been banned. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1219 "2024-08-05T22:46:58Z")
More than 90% of Black voters say they will be voting for Harris. That’s not too shabby. But I’m sure she’s working on getting even more. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1220 "2024-08-05T22:49:41Z")
Where are you seeing that? I just cited MSNBC form this morning that says 81% ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1221 "2024-08-05T22:55:51Z")
I quote crowmanyclouds from the other thread admitting he does not understand what is happing and why. “I don’t get why his base isn’t offended by the idea that ‘’‘illegals’‘’ are stealing jobs from “the blacks” but, somehow, this in no way effects any other ethnic group.” Copy pasted directly form the post. I’m saying I do get exactly what is going on, I make no claim that it will actually work. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=60) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620.md?page=62)