# I Pit Split\_p\_j

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1362 "2024-09-25T02:10:41Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> I kinda feel like the guy who gave a free Jack and Coke to someone celebrating their first sobriety coin.

I’m not going to tell you not to feel guilty, but let’s amend that example.

More like someone who got a DUI (the warnings) and just got out of court-mandated rehab (the suspension), who came to the bar and said they’re not going to drink there until they had it under control (the not going to post until after the election) who you sarcastically offered to buy a drink for IF they ever got clear (the sarcastic Epstein thing) who immediately drank a bottle of Walker and drove home barely avoiding hitting a Cop (the rest of his BS Hijacking).

The post I mentioned, meant that they KNEW they had a problem, but they didn’t have the willpower to stay away, follow mod instruction, or even let the heat die down so they could go back to their unsupported assertations when memories were less fresh.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1363 "2024-10-10T13:08:06Z")

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Ok so I do have to apologize to the board, my suspension has made me think about some things. I drunk post a lot and get fired up.

I know it’s not an excuse, but the suspension has made me realize that I have to follow the rules to continue here and it’s my behavior that is the problem. I can change that.

All that being said, I do think that as a member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, which is a part of the Teamsters Union, have some insight as to why the Teamsters and firefighters’ unions have not endorsed either candidate.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1364 "2024-10-10T13:38:19Z")

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Please, bestow your wisdom upon us.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1365 "2024-10-10T15:21:41Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> All that being said, I do think that as a member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, which is a part of the Teamsters Union, have some insight as to why the Teamsters and firefighters’ unions have not endorsed either candidate.

If you weren’t batshit insane maybe.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1366 "2024-10-10T15:39:57Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Please, bestow your wisdom upon us.

Maybe during his time in the wilderness he’s learned how to formulate a coherent argument.

Raise your hand if you’re holding your breath.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1367 "2024-10-10T16:45:35Z")

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Ok well I think I can speak on why two big unions have not endorsed a candidate.

[The international firefighter’s union](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/firefighters-union-iaff-declines-endorse-presidential-candidate-rcna173918) has followed my union.

I have gone into part of the reason why I knew my union would not endorse Harris out right, it goes back to the near railroad strike a few years ago.

I will tread lightly here and consider the rules of this board if anyone wants to discuss further.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1368 "2024-10-10T17:59:24Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> [The international firefighter’s union](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/firefighters-union-iaff-declines-endorse-presidential-candidate-rcna173918) has followed my union.

The firefighters have only failed to endorse two Democratic candidates for President over the last 64 years, both female. That might also have a lot to do with it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1369 "2024-10-10T19:40:47Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> The firefighters have only failed to endorse two Democratic candidates for President over the last 64 years, both female.

Firefighters only respect mustaches, don’t you know.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-JD_UKX4FSY/hqdefault.jpg "Moustache kinda morning") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JD_UKX4FSY&t=39s)

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1370 "2024-10-10T22:52:07Z")

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Someone please put a fake mustache on Kamala. Hey, whatever works on these alpha males.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1371 "2024-10-13T20:26:06Z")

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That’s the only facial hair they’re allowed to grow. At least locally. Different municipalities may have different rules.

-Superdude, the son of a firefighter, the grandson of a firefighter, and a former EMT who worked alongside firefighters for many years.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1372 "2024-10-14T19:03:59Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> That’s the only facial hair they’re allowed to grow. At least locally. Different municipalities may have different rules.

Need to have a clean facial seal for SCBAs. I had the same requirement once upon a time for the occasional use of [Scott Air-Paks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Air-Pak_SCBA). Complete with annual pulmonary function testing, facial seal testing and the most boring training videos you have ever witnessed in your life. I swear you could use those videos to torture people - they were just barely a step down from water-boarding, only they inspired suicidal ennui rather than panic.

Thankfully that period of my life ended long ago, so I could grow a beard and shave haphazardly as motivation (or lack thereof) demanded.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1373 "2024-11-06T05:27:38Z")

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Well, it is looking like everything I’ve been trying to explain to this board has happened. The polls will show that the Beyonce endorsement actually hurt Harris with Black voters, as I said it would in my last posts.

I’m not happy about this, but not surprised at all. I’ve been warning the board for years now. So now I am definitely owed an apology from the mods on this board, and I should not be shut down anytime I post.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1374 "2024-11-06T05:40:26Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> The polls will show

That doesn’t make you right all along. That just means you are predicting again.  
Get back to us when actual polls actually agree with you.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1375 "2024-11-06T05:47:25Z")

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The polls will show a decrease in support from black people for Harris compared to Biden. We know that right now.

I’m telling you Beyonce’s endorsement is part of the reason. She is poison in the black community now.

So yes, I am right.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1376 "2024-11-06T05:52:58Z")

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I don’t know about whether or not any celebrity’s endorsement can make a real difference. But when I hear a stat that Trump went from 10% to 25% of black men in Pennsylvania, that’s damning to the Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1377 "2024-11-06T06:42:39Z")

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I predicted that if I didn’t wear my lucky socks yesterday, Trump would win. I didn’t wear my lucky socks, therefore I was right.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1378 "2024-11-06T06:48:15Z")

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I do not get why people continue to vote against their own interests. If someone can explain that to me, I would appreciate it. I guarantee that the folks that voted for Trump are not going to benefit like they think/hope they might.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1379 "2024-11-06T07:09:10Z")

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Because they delude themselves into thinking they _are_ voting in their best interests. Or, most often, they don’t think about it at all and vote with their “gut”.

And we all know what guts are full of.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1380 "2024-11-06T07:15:21Z")

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Make sure you drink plenty of fluids and stretch adequately so you don’t cramp up from all that patting yourself on the back you’re doing.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1381 "2024-11-06T07:17:56Z")

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I’m not happy about it. But I went through hell on this board trying to explain myself. Nearly banned several times after posting here for years because I disagreed with the boards take on the election.

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