# I Pit Split\_p\_j

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620 "2021-05-07T22:08:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1442 "2025-01-29T20:55:55Z")

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I’m sorry about that, I go too far sometimes. I didn’t realize our age was that close, but alot changed in the '80’s.

I like a different preceptive on the times as I was just a kid.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1443 "2025-01-29T20:57:45Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I’m 53, you remember MLK,?

Big deal. I just turned 50. I am somewhere toward the younger end of the age range here. 53?

> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> That’s like nothing, you are only 8 years older than me, so yes I am one of the older people on this board.

No, you are at most in the middle of the age range here.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1444 "2025-01-29T20:58:04Z")

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Wait what is happening?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1445 "2025-01-29T20:58:50Z")

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You are abou to get banned for violating a topic ban.

That is what is happening.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1446 "2025-01-29T20:58:56Z")

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no I’m just talking, I didn’t see all that.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1447 "2025-01-29T21:00:25Z")

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no I’ve been here for like 20 years, posting active for like 15

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1448 "2025-01-29T21:03:27Z")

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I’m not a troll; I stopped posting in that thread when I saw the mod note

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1449 "2025-01-29T21:07:22Z")

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If I’m going to be banned, all I will say is good luck.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1450 "2025-01-29T21:29:37Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> o I’ve been here for like 20 years, posting active for like 15

How long you have been a member or posting is not relevant. You violated a topic ban. You will almost certainly be banned.

> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> I’m not a troll; I stopped posting in that thread when I saw the mod note

Did any one say you were a troll? The generl consensus is that you are a mentally unstable moron- but that you genuinely believe what you post.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1451 "2025-01-29T21:31:17Z")

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What’s all this? Where did he violate a topic ban? ~~Please flag and I’ll review.~~

It looks like it was here:

> [@Trump releasing files on JFK assassination](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-releasing-files-on-jfk-assassination/1013330/29):
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> Nearly half the country are CT’s by what this board calls CT’s now. That’s why they believe Jan 6 was not an insurrection but just peaceful protests and that it was federal agents that did the violence. That’s why Trump is always floating some kind of CT. It’s all blowback from the 9/11 lies. I use nearly half but to be fair it’s 49.9% of voters at least. Trump does not get elected twice without 9/11. PNAC could not predict the blowback in the late '90’s when it was planned. To explain it bet…

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1452 "2025-01-29T21:36:40Z")

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Some are contending that he violated his topic ban. I handled the flags.

He referenced 9/11 lies as a basis for why American citizens no longer trust their government, but he did not assert conspiracy theories, only that lies had been told about 9/11 – which is true. He did not say _what_ lies, and if he had referred to an “inside job,” I’d have taken further action. He didn’t.

Others latched on to the fact that he’d uttered the words, “9/11,” and assumed he was referring to the “inside job” conspiracy. By then, the discussion had been hijacked into a discussion about 9/11. That’s what I moderated for.

You can take further action if you believe it is warranted, but I did not feel that was the case _in this instance_.

Here’s the underlying thread, for your review.

> [@Trump releasing files on JFK assassination](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-releasing-files-on-jfk-assassination/1013330/15):
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> It relates to how the media is not trusted now since no one really believes the official 9/11 story in 2025, and the hate of the so called other. That’s why Trump is always saying that “terrorists” are coming over the border. It plays into the fear stoked by 9/11; you can see that right?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1453 "2025-01-29T21:40:29Z")

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I sent you a PM on this. I don’t want to review in a Pit thread.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1454 "2025-01-30T07:13:36Z")

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> [@Trump releasing files on JFK assassination](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-releasing-files-on-jfk-assassination/1013330/29):
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> Trump does not get elected twice without 9/11. PNAC could not predict the blowback in the late '90’s when it was planned.

The quote above your post contains the statement

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> Trump does not get elected twice without 9/11. PNAC could not predict the blowback in the late '90’s when it was planned.

This strongly suggests that he’s asserting that PNAC planned 9/11.

ETA: in that post he goes on to assert that the official story of 9/11 was a lie.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1455 "2025-01-30T07:20:44Z")

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I’m guessing that this clears up what happened to the hamsters when the capybaras replaced them?  
The hamsters have been put to work on the rope making machine.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1456 "2025-01-30T16:09:57Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Did you mention in your flag that in his last suspension notice that split\_p\_j was specifically noted to absolutely avoid 9/11 CTs? Because @Aspenglow didn’t mention it when modding the thread to avoid hijacks.

I referenced all the recent moderation but as stated later in this thread, he was vague enough that it wasn’t clear that he was violating anything, and I understood the reasoning and thought the judgement was fair.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1457 "2025-01-30T17:11:05Z")

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Sorry, kiddo, but from what I can understand of this largely incoherent post, the answer is yes.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1458 "2025-01-31T02:07:36Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I referenced all the recent moderation but as stated later in this thread, he was vague enough that it wasn’t clear that he was violating anything, and I understood the reasoning and thought the judgement was fair.

Understandable. I guess the recent news ([brand-new warning and 30 days suspension](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/warning-and-30-day-suspension-for-split-p-j-for-violating-topic-ban/1013661/2)) is the -flip- side of the mods (generally quite fair) knowledge of poster’s histories. Long term posters get a lot of rope, but they _also_ get judged on long ongoing trends.

I suspect the judgement was also a compromise, because reading through the post it was _just_ vague enough that one could, if one wanted, give said poster the benefit of the doubt. So they get a DrDeth style “this is your last chance” long term suspension and not a perma-ban, although that was mentioned as the next step if it happened again.

NOTE - I am NOT disputing the moderation, just think it was reasonably well balanced and nuanced. 🙂

Is @Miller going to close the thread until the suspension is over? He’s done it before for long-term suspensions.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1459 "2025-01-31T02:09:26Z")

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Thanks for the reminder. Thread closed until further notice.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1460 "2025-01-31T02:09:34Z")

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620/1461 "2025-03-05T06:08:38Z")

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