# I Pit Tea Party Nation for Sabotaging America

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2011, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364 "2011-10-31T09:06:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/1 "2011-10-31T09:06:58Z")

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[http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/20/348168/tea-party-group-businesses-hurt-obama/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/20/348168/tea-party-group-businesses-hurt-obama/)

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> In a rambling letter titled “Call For A Strike of American Small Businesses Against The Movement for Global Socialism,” Brookstone urges businesses “not hire a single person” to protest “this new dictator”:
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> ```
> Resolved that: The current administration and Democrat majority in the Senate, in conjunction with Progressive socialists from all around the country, especially those from Hollywood and the left leaning news media (Indeed, most of the news media.) have worked in unison to advance an anti-business, an anti-free market, and an anti-capitalist (anti-individual rights and property ownership) agenda. [...]
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> \*\* I, an American small business owner, part of the class that produces the vast majority of real, wealth producing jobs in this country, hereby resolve that I will not hire a single person until this war against business and my country is stopped.\*\*
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> Brookstone cites Democrats’ support of the Occupy Wall Street movement as proof that Obama, media elites, and the like are “against business, private property ownership and capitalism.” Although she fails to explain how a freeze on hiring would send a bold pro-business message, given that such a boycott would further damage the economy and exacerbate high national unemployment.
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> But these Tea Partiers are only too happy to put politics ahead of the well-being of 14 million unemployed Americans, not to mention the businesses who are looking for qualified workers.

Yep. New low, guys. “Let’s make everything worse so that a president we disagree with (mostly because we’re too stupid to understand basic economics) doesn’t have a chance against people who are _bound_ to make things worse next year!”

The first comment on the page sums it up nicely: “If ONE of these “true American patriots” can tell me how intentionally causing harm to other Americans is patriotic, I’m all ears.”

God I hate this country.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/2 "2011-10-31T09:17:04Z")

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This is consistent with the position of the true power brokers in the US - they’re willing to make the country a worse place so long as it’s likely their share of the governmental power will increase. And they will scream at other people for being “unAmerican” while they do it.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/3 "2011-10-31T09:59:22Z")

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A revolt of “job creators” and America’s elite against the redistributionists that keep holding them back and treating them like normal people? Next they’re gonna turn invisible and derail trains…

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/4 "2011-10-31T10:11:13Z")

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Oh, it’s not likely to do much, but it is a very accurate reflection of what kind of people we’re dealing with.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/5 "2011-10-31T12:23:22Z")

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There’s another current thread on this board, discussing profanities in many languages. Any post there could be very appropriate here.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/6 "2011-10-31T13:42:23Z")

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How the fuck is this not class warfare?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/7 "2011-10-31T13:43:16Z")

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Class warfare is only when the poor are concerned about how much the rich are screwing them, duh.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/8 "2011-10-31T13:45:19Z")

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It’s not a one time thing. She really [is this stupid](http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/some-background-on-my-new-worst-person-in-the-world-award).

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/9 "2011-10-31T16:35:28Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It’s not a one time thing. She really [is this stupid](http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/some-background-on-my-new-worst-person-in-the-world-award).

From your link: “It raised a **literal** crap storm aimed at me.”

If only! Of course, that would create more jobs in the fetish industry (credited to Obama, of course!), so she’d still be against it.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/10 "2011-10-31T17:05:06Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> God I hate this country.

Cripes, you’re a moron.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/11 "2011-10-31T17:15:23Z")

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**Shodan** , do you have anything to add with regard to the actual “proposal”?

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**Author:** ![purple\_cow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@purple\_cow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purple_cow)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/12 "2011-10-31T17:34:51Z")

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Tea party nation is hardly the base of the problem. Don’t forget, the Speaker of the House, when the new Congress was sworn in early this year, stated that “the single most important goal of this congress is to ensure that Obama is a one-term president” Just what i want to hear from our government, we’re going to make sure nothing good happens in the next two years so that we can win an office.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/13 "2011-10-31T17:36:38Z")

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Not really - people like the OP are too stupid to respond intelligently.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/14 "2011-10-31T17:37:23Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> **Shodan** , do you have anything to add with regard to the actual “proposal”?

Hey, this is \*\*Shodan \*\*you’re talkin’ about.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/15 "2011-10-31T17:49:32Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Not really - people like the OP are too stupid to respond intelligently.

As opposed to your witty comment, the intellectual likes of which have not been surpassed since the Gore Vidal-William Buckley debates. Do you actually contribute anything with more substance than your “Regards” signoff?

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/16 "2011-10-31T17:53:09Z")

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“The worse the better.”

why should Lenin get to hog all the cynical tactics?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/17 "2011-10-31T18:06:01Z")

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Relax, people. This is horseshit.

No businessman is going to shoot _himself_ in the foot in order to get Obama. They are not going to sacrifice their own money, which is the only reason they hire people anyway, for this ‘stand’.

This analagous to the morons who said they were going to move to another country if Bush was elected, or re-elected, or whatever. It’s bluster, nothing more.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/18 "2011-10-31T18:07:47Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> The first comment on the page sums it up nicely: “If ONE of these “true American patriots” can tell me how intentionally causing harm to other Americans is patriotic, I’m all ears.”

I don’t think this nonsense will lead to anything. But, out of curiosity, did I miss similar rants from you when workers go on strike, particularly those that the public depends on for health and livelihood? Could you provide a few of those links to those OPs you’ve started?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/19 "2011-10-31T18:41:32Z")

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“I refuse to work for you until I’m afforded better treatment” is a strike.

“I refuse to hire you because I don’t like Democrats” isn’t a strike.

False equivalence. Again.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tea-party-nation-for-sabotaging-america/601364/20 "2011-10-31T18:43:39Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> No businessman is going to shoot _himself_ in the foot in order to get Obama. They are not going to sacrifice their own money, which is the only reason they hire people anyway, for this ‘stand’.

Well, maybe. Brookstone _is_ a small business owner - she runs a process server operation in Denver. I don’t know if she actually employs anyone, though.

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